Is anybody running h&r sport springs with kyb agx shocks in autocross? I have been debating on getting a camber kit with this suspension setup on my car, but i figure the little bit of camber would help in autocross. It only looks like there is a tiny bit of wear on my tires from it? Would you guys suggest getting a kit if i'm gonna do the occasional autocross? Will it really eat my tires that bad?

 

um, new to racing?

If you got a camber kit, and then corrected back to stock settings, you'd actually have a worse set up for auto-x. The negative camber induced by lowering your honda helps handling by letting the tire have a better contact patch in turns. If you buy a camber kit, I'd say correct it for street, but then use it to add camber for racing. I carry camber everywhere, screw the tires, I just dig through used tire bins for tires.

Jung

 

If you change camber, your toe also changes:

Reference 0 camber 0 toe

Negative camber = toe in
Positive camber = toe out

If you do change camber at the track, make sure you are comfortable adjusting toe accordingly.

 

yea well i'm really only worried about wearing down my tires. Like i said i kinda want some camber for the track.

 

Worried about wearing tires? Are you SURE you want to race?

 

so true

 

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Reference 0 camber 0 toe

Negative camber = toe in
Positive camber = toe out

If you do change camber at the track, make sure you are comfortable adjusting toe accordingly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you sure about this? The tie-rod is attached lower than the axle on the back of the wheel. When the top of the wheel shifts inward, the tie rod will be in tension and will pull the back of the wheel inward, causing toe-out. LCA front suspensions have toe-out bump steer, unless I'm dumber than I think I am.

 

Toe changes due to camber change are dependent on suspension design

 

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no ****!

 

I've had my car dropped between 2.5 inches and 1.5 inches, and I have NEVER experienced camber wear. You want about -2 degress of camber for autocrossing, depending on vehicle of course. Auto-X destroys tires, camber wear is nothing compared to that. Well worth it though!

 

-2 degrees or so will not wear out your tires. Not adjusting your toe settings aftery you set your camber will, however.

 

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Yeah, but it's safe to assume that it is a Honda, with an independent front suspension, which experiences toe-out under compression. If it's not a Honda, then pardon me...