Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo.

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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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Default Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo.

Ok guys, I have my '90 Suzuka Blue JDM Frontended, hatchy back from thwe body shop. Well I originally planned on doing a B20VTEC allmotor, in it. Well I did an MPFI swap on it and it actually has some pep now. By all means it is not fast, but peppy it is. I have a D16a6 that needs a rebuild, and an HF exhaust manifold. I was thinking of rebuilding the D16 and doing a T25 mitsu turbo and just running low boost 10-12 PSI max, and having fun with it. I figure it would be a good boost experiment. My CRX is getting a B20vtec turbo so lets's not hear any of those comments.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Default Re: Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo. (CRXBart)

have you had a chance to drive either? Both will have **** tons of torque, and both will have that sweet torque bump in the middle of the rev range. I have heard that the CR-VTEC can be unreliable if the builder isn't careful-but the same goes for a turbo anything.

My opinion: Stick w/ the SOHC. Spend (at least) as much $$ as you would have on the CR-VTEC on the D16A6. Find a spare one and build it up outside the car. B16 rods/supra pistons are only about $450 and will add tons of safety, a metal headgasket, and replace every gasket on the motor. Use either a standalone (like ghettodyne or z-dyne) or the AFC/SMC hack with big injectors. Stay away from the FMU.

my est. price list
CR-VTEC:
V-AFC-$300
Block-$400
Mounts-$300
Linkage-$150
Head-$400
Misc.-$250
Total-$1600 MINIMUM, but you know that.

D16A6
Pistons/Rods-$450
SAFC-$250
DSM injectors-$100
RevHard kit-$2700
haf rad-$150
total-$3650, but could be done much cheaper

IMO the Hf mani sucks. The turbo would be good for 300hp, IDK about the CR-VTEC. If my prices are off, forgive me, I wrote this fast.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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Default Re: Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo. (krustindumm)

def built d16 turbo. turbo cars are juss that much more fun to drive. i agree the hf manifold sucks...
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo. (Jockobo)

Man I had a SOHC ZC in my CRX running 8psi and its was a fun car to drive while spooling up and it would pull super hard but for a daily driver the lag and things I hated it I swapped it out for a built DOHC ZC so go with the CRVTEC.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo. (JDMVTEC)

I would do the sohc:

Easier... B20/VTECS are difficult to build right, IMO. D16 turbos are easy to do.

More available. Compare trying to find a B20 block to a D series block, or a VTEC head compared to a sohc, or anything for that matter.

Just plain cooler... fast sohcs are more respectable than quick DOHC's... and without some good tuning I have no doubt that the sohc turbo would be the better engine, power wise.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:03 AM
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Default Re: Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo. (Mr. S)

Anybody else? I was planning for this to be my fun daily driver auto-x car. I don't want anything stupid fast just a fun driver. Low 14's or high 13's is all I'm looking for. I just want it to be cheap so I can spend the money on my CRX. But it must be done right. So both motors will be rebuilt, and recieve JE forged pistons, and Eagle Rods. If I do do the D16A6 I will use the HF manifold, I'm not looking for a powerhouse just more power than what I have now. 180-200whp is acceptable.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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Default Re: Daily Driver B20VTEC allmotor, or D16Turbo. (CRXBart)

forget the crvtec...just go for the sleeved b18c. instant 2.0 liter, and if you ever decide to turbo it, most sleeves are guaranteed up to 30 psi
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