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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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im thinking of lowering my 91 GS about 1-2.5 inches. whats the best look and fell for the car??? also is this goin to mess up and shortten thelife on the CV joints. i herd from Mr. knows-it-all, my boss, that craker *** craker , dont worry im white too, im just fukin around.. he said it just forces the cars CV joints to be more stressed and the f@ck up faster... whats the deal... can you integra owners that have lower cars help me out... whats the best hieght for ride and looks?? what are AWSOME spings [IMG][/IMG] ..???
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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for the 90-93 integras, they dont do well lowered. your axles will go out faster, the lower you are. head over to g2ic.com and look under the member page to find what kind of drop you like...personally i think to be slammed, you will need 3-4" (have ou seen the stock height?) i am dropped 2.5" and i still get mistaken for stock height.

Progress makes a great sport spring...in fact i have some for sale right now... pm me if you are interested

but seriously progress makes one of the best spring for the street application.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yazac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im thinking of lowering my 91 GS about 1-2.5 inches. whats the best look and fell for the car??? also is this goin to mess up and shortten thelife on the CV joints. i herd from Mr. knows-it-all, my boss, that craker *** craker , dont worry im white too, im just fukin around.. he said it just forces the cars CV joints to be more stressed and the f@ck up faster... whats the deal... can you integra owners that have lower cars help me out... whats the best hieght for ride and looks?? what are AWSOME spings [IMG][/IMG] ..??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your boss is right bout that. Lowering will stress the cv boots.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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My 94 is lowered about 3" and the axles are pretty much right at parallel to the ground when the car is at rest. Some people might say that if the car is lowered alot, the joints will wear out faster because the outer joint might be higher than the inner joint, but what's the difference between that and if the outer joint was lower than the inner joint? The joints would still be bent just the same. Yeah the length of the axles will change as the ride height changes, but that's why the inner joint is made to move in and out axially.

edit: I have 147K on my car now, over 40K lowered 3", and I'm still on the original axles, no problems yet.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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patrick wins...

im on my second set on both sides..

like i said, the g2 integras really struggle...axles are like $80 or so around here, and autozone has a lifetime warranty as long as you own the car..luckily both of mine have been replaced through autozone so if one goes, i get a new one for free...
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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go with coilovers then you can adjust the ride where ever you want it. I have ground control and love em. Nice ride not bouncy at all, well I have tokios(sp?) also Oh yea on a 92 gsr
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with coilovers then you can adjust the ride where ever you want it. I have ground control and love em. Nice ride not bouncy at all, well I have tokios(sp?) also Oh yea on a 92 gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>

Randomly changing coilover ride height is not a good idea, as it totally changes the alignment every time. If you do that you will have to worry about tires WAY more than CV axles.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Randomly changing coilover ride height is not a good idea, as it totally changes the alignment every time. If you do that you will have to worry about tires WAY more than CV axles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And constant trips to the alignment shop.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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why would changing ride height be a bad idea? These cars aren't equipped with Macpherson struts, so height changes only result in changes to camber. You can set camber with A-arm sliders and a few simple tools on a flat piece of ground.

I have the Tein Type-SS coilovers. Very well suited for the street, horrible for the track unless you like infinite understeer...
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMDA9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would changing ride height be a bad idea? These cars aren't equipped with Macpherson struts, so height changes only result in changes to camber. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The toe changes, too. That's what chews up tires so frequently.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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exactly, so often when people lower their cars and don't get the car aligned, and their tires end up wearing out very fast, they automatically think that they need a camber kit, which of course requires a shop to set the camber correctly. If they had gotten an alignment in the first place, they might not have needed a camber kit, but only to get the toe set correctly.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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well if you are living in NYC like me
lowering your car its a really bad Idea
I droped my 92gsr with eibach 1.5 drop and stock shocks
camber kit upfront only (the cheap one)
the tire wear is so quick you wont believe it
need the skunk2 kit but the ride is really harsh 17 wheels

my 91gs is lowered 1.5 with neuspeed and tokiko blues same with the
wear of tires as the first one but the ride is bouncy 14 wheels

my 90gs lowered with HR 2.5 and KYB the ride is not bouncy or harsh
with the exception of those crater or dips that we have here
but I played with the wheel size a lot
17 in to harsh
14 in scraped all over the place
15 just perfect!
but all in all the the thing that has taken its toll
is my ball joints, outer tie rods and sway bar links and not to mention my muffler.
unless you have a nice road surface or want to go with the headaches
and pains.
lower your car with a nice complete set up instead of mix and match..

trust me you wont regret it..

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big reds &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you are living in NYC like me
lowering your car its a really bad Idea
I droped my 92gsr with eibach 1.5 drop and stock shocks
camber kit upfront only (the cheap one)
the tire wear is so quick you wont believe it
need the skunk2 kit but the ride is really harsh 17 wheels

</TD></TR></TABLE>

why did you get a camber kit w/ only a 1.5" drop? I hope you didn't get the camber set to exactly zero because that will worsen the handling. I'm dropped 3" and don't really have much need for a camber kit.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big reds &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you are living in NYC like me
lowering your car its a really bad Idea
I droped my 92gsr with eibach 1.5 drop and stock shocks
camber kit upfront only (the cheap one)
the tire wear is so quick you wont believe it
need the skunk2 kit but the ride is really harsh 17 wheels

my 91gs is lowered 1.5 with neuspeed and tokiko blues same with the
wear of tires as the first one but the ride is bouncy 14 wheels

my 90gs lowered with HR 2.5 and KYB the ride is not bouncy or harsh
with the exception of those crater or dips that we have here
but I played with the wheel size a lot
17 in to harsh
14 in scraped all over the place
15 just perfect!
but all in all the the thing that has taken its toll
is my ball joints, outer tie rods and sway bar links and not to mention my muffler.
unless you have a nice road surface or want to go with the headaches
and pains.
lower your car with a nice complete set up instead of mix and match..

trust me you wont regret it..

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you get an alignment after you lowered the car. I have almost 7K on my setup (agx/spoon springs : about a 2.5" drop) and I do not get any uneven tire wear. I also drive through NYC also (the worst roads I have encountered )
Is the information about wear and tear on the CV joints true?
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FrostyDC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
(the worst roads I have encountered )
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haha I've never been to NYC, but I'm guessing that the roads there would look good compared to the roads here in Jackson MS. Because of the soil composition around here, the ground tends to shift and settle alot, wreaking havoc like you would not believe on the roads. Some of the roads also have so incredibly much traffic that it's next to impossible to pave them because there's just no way to close even one lane.
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