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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 06:14 AM
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anyone have any experience w/ these? have a friend who said it blew his tranny after just a few months. reverse went, then fifth, then the whole tranny. anybody else have similar problems?
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 07:00 AM
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interested in knowning also because i am on a cheap *** budget lol....
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody else have similar problems?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Many people have. Do a search, there are tons of threads on this.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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Phantom Grip sucks donkey ********* - period.

It's not even a real LSD. It's two metal plates that are spring-loaded that push against the spider gears in your stock diff. Over time (not too long either) the pressure against those spider gears breaks them, leaving your diff and possibly your entire tranny trashed.

I had a friend go through two trannies because of that Phantom **** units. First time he broke the diff, he called them and they said it must have been his tranny and that "we have units in cars that have been in for years" yet I've seen numerous stories of how the Phantom Slip has killed trannies.

Each time his diff blew due to the Phantom Slip, the metal pieces ripped through his tranny (because the magnet that is supposed to catch them had gotten full) and ruined pretty much everything, including the case because a piece got lodged between the ring gear and the case.

Aside from the fact that they can break your diff, they don't even work worth a ****. They're okay as a sort of "diff locker" when going straight, but they don't do dick when turning like areal LSD.

I'd love it if the thing actually worked, because I always like to see products that work that cost 1/2 or 1/3 of the original's price (like Rota wheels) that perform similiarly.

Unfortunately if you want an LSD, you'll need to find a real one like a (in no particular order) Quaife, Kaaz, Cusco, ATS, stock Honda from ITR or JDM B16A or B18C, etc.

Or you could simply sell your tranny and buy a Type R tranny.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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hey good info thanks.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Or you could simply sell your tranny and buy a Type R tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that wont mate up with d series will it? (sorry im kinda new)
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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i just saw a phantom caca break this dudes freshly rebuilt tranny...dont get it..

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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Phantom Grip sucks donkey ********* - period.

It's not even a real LSD. It's two metal plates that are spring-loaded that push against the spider gears in your stock diff. Over time (not too long either) the pressure against those spider gears breaks them, leaving your diff and possibly your entire tranny trashed.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. They suck huge donkey *****. Why?
It just puts more pressure on the already weak honda diff.

I had one and was doing a burnout in the burnout box at Joliet Raceway and it exploded the tranny. Cost me $400 for a tow home. With the money I spend on the tow and phantom grip, I could have almost bought a quaife. I now have a quaife and they work awesome!! I say save up for a quaife and do it right the first time.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Does anybody know the part number for the Honda LSD? If so is the readily available from Honda ? Thanks ahead of time
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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for the price of a brand new itr lsd from acura, you would be much better off buying a quaiffe or kaaz.

or just sell your gsr tranny and buy a type r from someone on H-T
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Yeah but I can get the prices from Acura at cost because of my dads garage, so I may be able to get one cheaper
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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a brand new ITR LSD from honda is around $800-$900, which is about the same as a quaiffe. but if you can get the ITR at cost go for it.
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