Is this possible on a d16y8?

 

Built with N20 I'm sure you could. Otherwise a very high (13:1?) CR with a cam, way nice intake with a badass header and short exhaust, you might get pretty close.

 

Do you think i could pull it off with this,

AEM Cold Air Intake System

AEM Tru-Power Pulley Kits

Dynatech Sportmaxx Header

Racer Design Stainless Steel Cat-Back System

Skunk2 Adjustable Cam Gears

AEM High Volume Fuel Rails

 

not a chance... those are only minor bolt ons...

 

Do you think it could hit 180 HP atleast, if not what else do i need?

 

are you talking about to the wheels?

 

if you're talking about to the wheels...dont even think about it if you wanna stay daily driven and all motor, and without nitrous. its hard for some b16s out there to hit 200 whp all motor, so getting 200 whp out of a d series, you'd have better luck winning the lottery

 

whats a good number to shoot for? I think stock im 127 HP.

 

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AEM Cold Air Intake System

AEM Tru-Power Pulley Kits

Dynatech Sportmaxx Header

Racer Design Stainless Steel Cat-Back System

Skunk2 Adjustable Cam Gears

AEM High Volume Fuel Rails </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, with al that you could get like 125-130hp max. Add a nice 90 shot er so of N2O then maybe, but that is forced induction. To get 200HP at the crank all motor you might need something like, oh, internal work

-Dustin

[edit 130-140hp mx with those mods, I was thinking D16A6]

 

a 90 shot?

 

dude just ******* replace the dame thing and get a b series. no shame in it.

 

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sure why not. 100 seems a little high, and a 75 wouldn't get it to 200 hp, so why not 90. I think it is one of the jets the ZEX kit comes with.

-Dustin

 

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...Add a nice 90 shot er so of N2O then maybe, but that is forced induction...
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actually...No2 is considered to be NA rather than force induction

 

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yes...but id would be race only. wouldnt be a good street motor. sleeved, large bore, very high compression, stroked or destroked to get a good R/S ratio, good valve train, massive headwork and a cam that would makle power to like 10k rpm. as long as you can spin the **** out of it and the cam will keep up you can get that amount of hp. as for were i would be in the power band (if it would be useful)??? as for increases in torque, who knows? go on the old d-series board and find some dynos, i swear ive seen some that are close to that amount of power, NA.

 

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actually...No2 is considered to be NA rather than force induction
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heh, thats not right. you telling me injecting a pressurized, high mass % of oxygen gas into the cylinder isn't "forced induction". Please retract your statement and never say it again.

 

i doubt it is, i mean i was reading my hot compact import or whatever its called and they did a b16 200whp build up. to the person taht said that said something about the are alittle 200whp b16s around. i doubt there are any cruisin around on the streets, unless they runnin race gas, i dont think theres any pump gas ones around

i think u could get about 160whp all motor

 

well, go to most tracks out there, and usually(especially @ domestic dominated tracks) they'll consider nitrous NA. i dont really, but they usually do. for the reasoning that SC and turbo are the only true FI out, you can agree or disagree i dont care, i'm just stating what you might run into in the real world

 

get an R motor then you can do it with bolt ons... 200 hp you are gonna need the $$$

 

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heh, thats not right. you telling me injecting a pressurized, high mass % of oxygen gas into the cylinder isn't "forced induction". Please retract your statement and never say it again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

First of all n02 isnt oxygen...its nitrous oxide. Second of all its not considered forced induction...its a power adder just like a cai. A power adder is only considered FI when the power is generated by the engine...such as a sc or a turbo. The only thing that nitrous does is inject cold air, richen the fuel a tad, and evenly distribute the a/f mixture throughout the combustion chamber. I agree that it "should" be considered fi but if you go to any major track youll understand what im talking about. Actually most tracks sort their cars out by power adders instead of FI and NA. So please research things before you try to bash somebody.

Sean

 

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heh, thats not right. you telling me injecting a pressurized, high mass % of oxygen gas into the cylinder isn't "forced induction". Please retract your statement and never say it again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well acutally u are wrong tho.,

the N2O its pressurized, BUT inside the tank..... it gets SPRAYED into the intake tubing (or sprayed into the chamber)... and then it gets sucked by the vacumm produced by the engine not forced into it..... mixes with air and fuel and that very flamable quemical explodes even more powerful and gives u power.... it was not FORCED inducted into the combustion chamber.... u dont get pressure builded with N20 being added on the intake manifold...

 

But nitrous is still cheating when running NA or all motor.

 

naturally aspirated..... no power adder.... nothings being forced into the motor..... nitrous is forced into the motor from a bottle between 7-8 hundred psi.... tell me thats not forced. and when you say NA you think ALL MOTOR... nothing but motor. not silly gas. to all you ***** that think nitrous is na.

 

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Nitrous is not flammable. this thread is getting overran with misinformation. Nitrous Oxide is not just a colder air charge. Nitrous per volume, contains a much greater percentage of oxygen than atmospheric air. Thus, you are getting the same amount of oxygen into the engine with a shot of nitrous as you would with a pressured turbo or supercharger system without nitrous, only instead of pressuring the air to get more oxygen, the smaller volume of nitrous contains the same (or close) than a low boost forced induction setup.

OH, and BTW, nitrous is not N/A. go enter a sport compact drag even under all motor and try to use nitrous and see if you dont get disqualified

 

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First of all n02 isnt oxygen.... The only thing that nitrous does is inject cold air, richen the fuel a tad, and evenly distribute the a/f mixture throughout the combustion chamber. I agree that it "should" be considered fi but if you go to any major track youll understand what im talking about. Actually most tracks sort their cars out by power adders instead of FI and NA. So please research things before you try to bash somebody.

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Do you realize what you just said, N02 isn't oxygen? Hence N02, the molecular structure is 2 parts nitrogen one part oxygen.

"richens the fuel mixture, evens the distribution of air /fuel inside the cylinder"?

Let me clear this up for you.

In a combustion chamber, pressure may be up to 200psi or more with extremely hot temperatures. At this pressure and temperature, the molecular structure of nitrous oxide (N02) breaks down. This introduces raw oxygen into the combustion chamber. Oxygen burns hot and requires a lot of fuel to keep the temperatures low enough to keep from burning holes in the pistons. Thats why if you run lean, without proper air/fuel ratios you will get melted valves etc...


You are right about the cooling effect nitrous has on the intake air. When nitrous vaporizes it has a cooling effect on the intake air. Cool air is dense, dense air has more oxygen thus giving the engine more power.

The idea is to richen the fuel when running nitrous to lower the temperatures inside the cylinder, this is where upgraded injectors etc will richen the fuel mixture. If the mixture does not get enough fuel, and too much nitrous is added problems will occur as stated above. To sum it up when nitrous is added into an engine more oxygen is available during combustion, more oxygen, more fuel = more power.


Modified by SiRWanabe at 12:55 PM 9/28/2003


Modified by SiRWanabe at 1:01 PM 9/28/2003

 

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no, its forced induction. you are spraying a fuel that burns extremely violently, forcing the engine to spray more fuel with it. that it forced induction. aka a power adder. thats why in the "forced induction" section, nitrous is listed.