well again im havin trouble with gettin my timing right........... i thought i had the cam gears perfectly lined up but when i start it it idles rough and when i hit the gas it stalls out.......... it doesnt backfire or anything like that.......

does it sound like i have the timing 180 degrees off?? this is such a PITA! and i dont have the tool to hold the cam gears in place once they are lined up so 2 ppl is a necessity.......... it cant be off by much if it idles half way decent......... maybe im 1 tooth off on each gear.......... i will recheck in the A.M. but any input would be great.......... thanx guys

 

Does this help??

 

yea this helps.......... thanx......... i thought the tdc mark was the hole in the crank pulley because it comes up when piston/cyliner #1 comes up........ i use the screw driver test......... i will try it again, thanx

 

Your car won't even start if its off by 180*.

 

thats what i figured............. i just got done working on it and it seems like the timing belt wont line up the cam gears when i go to put the belt in place.......... its off by 1 tooth every time............ i got it as close as i could and took it for a drive, its fine low end but top end it sounds like my car has vtec cuz the intake screams and its a dog up top......... any ideas? could i have somehow stretched the belt? thanx

 

aight i still cant get this thing right............ im finding TDC by pulling the spark plug out of #1 cylinder and putting a screw driver down into it and on the compression stroke i wait til the screw driver comes up and starts to go back down.......... now is TDC when it starts to come up or when it starts to come down? ive been screwing with this for toooo long........... a couple of times i thought i had it and it idled fine but wouldnt rev right......... i need some help bad!

 

What type of cam gears are you using?

 

stock cam gears......

 

Use the mark on the CRANK pulley to find TDC of the Bottom end..

There is a set of three marks, and other thats alone..
The three marks is for timing with a light, and the lonlye one is TDC

refer to the helms page above... the srewdriver method your just guessing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outsane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use the mark on the CRANK pulley to find TDC of the Bottom end..

There is a set of three marks, and other thats alone..
The three marks is for timing with a light, and the lonlye one is TDC

refer to the helms page above... the srewdriver method your just guessing</TD></TR></TABLE>


awesome........... thanx for the help.......

i ended up finally getting it.......... but just to be sure, how tight should the timing belt be?? should it make a slight humming sound?? im able to get it tight by sliding a small bar through the belt onto the tensioner and pulling up gently, it pulls all of the slack out of it......... i just want to be sure since its making a louder humming noise then it usually did......... thanx for the help!

 

bump it