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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 06:01 AM
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EJ8 coupe, B16A2, standard CTR pistons, stock rods, OEM headgasket, cams(in-.490, ex-.450
in-278 degrees ex-284 degrees) , skunk2 cam gears, skunk2 IM, I/H/E, fields vtec controller, stock clutch, no pass seat, spare tire, back seat, VIS OEM CF hood, stock ecu, ITR fuel rail and injectors, b&M fpr, 14" drag radials on steelies, stock cat, P/S removed (pump only/ no manual rack installed), head port-matched to IM, ITR TB port-matched to IM, tuned as much as possible on P1 Auto dyno.

That's about it on that setup, please give your opinion on this topic. Do any of you guys think this setup can possibly hit 13s constant in Reynolds, GA. Not to sure about the elevation but just try.


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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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Stock clutch?? 14's probably.....
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 06:55 AM
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Clutchmaster's Stage 3/4
ACT Heavy Duty PP 4 puck disc
ACT Xtreme PP 4 puck disc

add a lightened flywheel to each, victor X IM, 2 piece headgasket
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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ACT extreme, 6-puck or oem disk, w/ flywheel........you should be there.
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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Thanks for your help, now is there anybody else that can comment on this topic.
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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throw some itr cams in there and 13's will be possible...sorry but i just don't see it happenin w/ your current setup..but if you get 13's then more power to ya.
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Please read my post again and look closer at the specs of those cams. That profile is a lot better than itr cams, so please try again. The CTR cam specs are as follows:Lift: in-.449 ex-.417 Duration: in- 278 degrees ex-280 degrees.
Now if you didn't know, the CTR cams are better than ITR cams, unless you're talking about the 2001 spec USDM ITR cams. Those are the same as CTR. Those specs are a little better than Skunk2 Stage 2 cams.

Can anyone else comment on this? Please
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Oh and junya16, I'm not trying to be an ******* I'm just looking for the facts. I have a goal and I'm just need the right info.
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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run it and see...you won't find many facts in a post like this...good luck
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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Anyone else willing to take a crack at it? Need more info.
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SILINITY16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for your help, now is there anybody else that can comment on this topic. </TD></TR></TABLE>

take it to the track and find out
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Old Sep 26, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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no choice, you'll have to run it...
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SILINITY16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please read my post again and look closer at the specs of those cams. That profile is a lot better than itr cams, so please try again. The CTR cam specs are as follows:Lift: in-.449 ex-.417 Duration: in- 278 degrees ex-280 degrees.
Now if you didn't know, the CTR cams are better than ITR cams, unless you're talking about the 2001 spec USDM ITR cams. Those are the same as CTR. Those specs are a little better than Skunk2 Stage 2 cams.

evidently i haven't been keepin up on my cam durations in my head...my bad...so those just custom regrinds i take it??

Can anyone else comment on this? Please</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 03:00 AM
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I wouldn't say that those are custom regrinds, but they are pretty bad ***. They made 20whp on a bone stock gsr, with only being tuned.
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K20EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

take it to the track and find out</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SILINITY16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please read my post again and look closer at the specs of those cams. That profile is a lot better than itr cams, so please try again. The CTR cam specs are as follows:Lift: in-.449 ex-.417 Duration: in- 278 degrees ex-280 degrees.
Now if you didn't know, the CTR cams are better than ITR cams, unless you're talking about the 2001 spec USDM ITR cams. Those are the same as CTR. Those specs are a little better than Skunk2 Stage 2 cams.

Can anyone else comment on this? Please</TD></TR></TABLE>
CTR are better than skunk2 stage 2? im confused
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock93cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
CTR are better than skunk2 stage 2? im confused</TD></TR></TABLE>

?? im also.!!!

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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_DK. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

?? im also.!!!

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that makes three of us
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Check the specs I gave you on the CTR cams and check the specs on my cams.
The lift on the CTRs have nothing on the Skunk2 any stage, but the duration is better than all three of there cams. So the CTRs are somewhat better, because the valves stay open longer than with the Skunk2, while the Skunk2 opens further than the CTRs.

So in a way you are correct, but in a way you are not, young grasshoppers.


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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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LOL

Well that sounded mildly insulting.

I had the duration of CTR cams at 243/235 at 1mm lift, and Skunky 2s at 266/262 also at 1mm lift. Now if you had some CTR cams reground to even longer duration at 1mm lift then that may or may not yeild better performance overall. I would suspect not due to increase in the ABDC spec even beyond the healthy spec for Skunk2s. The drop in static compression on any of these cams is nothing to sneeze at.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 04:35 AM
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No the cams were not reground I just supplied the advertised duration along with the advertised lift. And I wasn't insulting anyone, just stating facts, that's all.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 04:37 AM
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I'm sure the motor is capable of 13s, but maybe not in that chassis. To be honest there are so many factors that can determine a run, none of which I'm going to go over. Just get out to the track and get some seat time
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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possibly 13.9's at the very fastest... I'd prolly assume more around 14.1-2's realisticly.
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