how will the busted ass 200k civic POS run on the dyno?
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how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno?
shultz did one of these for his ubermotor, so i thought it would be interesting to see what everyone thinks the poor ragged out motor in my pig would do. i've done a compression test on her and she's reading 170-100-140-185 (1-2-3-4, supposed to rear 185psi across the board). the head has never been off and as of this afternoon the odo read 207,446. i'll be going down to CD Performance in Fall River on Saturday to make a couple baseline pulls. anybody want to make some guesses as to what she'll put to the wheels??
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oh, it's a d16z6 for those that don't know. k&n drop in, DC 4-2-1 header and a generic "performance" noise maker, er, muffler. other then advanced timing that's it.
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oh, it's a d16z6 for those that don't know. k&n drop in, DC 4-2-1 header and a generic "performance" noise maker, er, muffler. other then advanced timing that's it.
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (robbin)
My guess is 85-90. Was that the compression test you did before nationals or have you done one since? With the low numbers between 2 and 3, I figured you had a head gasket leak and possibly some valve seat issues. The decent numbers on 1 and 4 suggest the rings are OK, so the bottom end may not be hurting too badly.
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (Mohudsolo)
my 130k miles D16Z6.....
compression read(s) 145-160-125-140 across.....
dynoed 114 whp and 102 wtq with short ram Iceman intake and custom 2 1/4 inch exhaust.
Head was slightly ported by myself....bone stock otherwise
compression read(s) 145-160-125-140 across.....
dynoed 114 whp and 102 wtq with short ram Iceman intake and custom 2 1/4 inch exhaust.
Head was slightly ported by myself....bone stock otherwise
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
98whp... but with your STS pax, that makes it somewhere north of 160whp 
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (rodney)
to be honest, i'm hoping for a really low sub-95hp number so i can justify rebuilding it. 
i probably won't touch it if she pulls down 115hp or so. would be nice to know how the hell the a6 motors are making that much with just a fresh head. 
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i probably won't touch it if she pulls down 115hp or so. would be nice to know how the hell the a6 motors are making that much with just a fresh head. nate
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (rodney)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodney »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98whp... but with your STS pax, that makes it somewhere north of 160whp </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would be nice to know how the hell the a6 motors are making that much with just a fresh head.
nate</TD></TR></TABLE>
a6 motor is underrated from the factory. I've seen bone stock a6's with 90K miles put down mid-high 90's at the wheels.
Once you do STS legal boltons and a freshened head, 115hp is no problem on the a6.
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a6 motor is underrated from the factory. I've seen bone stock a6's with 90K miles put down mid-high 90's at the wheels.
Once you do STS legal boltons and a freshened head, 115hp is no problem on the a6.
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (Mohudsolo)
i was gonna start a new thread once i got the plots scanned in, but oh well, it's really only important to me. 
she made 110hp/92lb-ft. after looking at uncleben's dyno plot and seeing that he made more torque at 3k rpm then i made at peak i've almost got myself convinced to do the whole motor and be done with it. it's only money, right?
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she made 110hp/92lb-ft. after looking at uncleben's dyno plot and seeing that he made more torque at 3k rpm then i made at peak i've almost got myself convinced to do the whole motor and be done with it. it's only money, right? nate
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
Damn!
I was going to say 110.
Eh, that's not as bad as it could be with the low compression numbers you have.
You're only down about 8-10 hp.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i've almost got myself convinced to do the whole motor and be done with it. it's only money, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here's a little push....do it.
I was going to say 110.
Eh, that's not as bad as it could be with the low compression numbers you have.
You're only down about 8-10 hp.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i've almost got myself convinced to do the whole motor and be done with it. it's only money, right?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Here's a little push....do it.
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've almost got myself convinced to do the whole motor and be done with it. it's only money, right? </TD></TR></TABLE>
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.
</TD></TR></TABLE>revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (.RJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you're not helping!
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you forgot the wheels too....
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you're not helping!
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you forgot the wheels too....
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you're not helping!
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you forgot the wheels too....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ah yes. Big pimpin wheels. Only drawback to the mazdaspeed (as far as costs) is the 17" wheels. But they're 7" wide
225 hoosiers would fit nicely. 245's up front?
If not, ITR's use 15" wheels and those are cheap
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you forgot the wheels too....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ah yes. Big pimpin wheels. Only drawback to the mazdaspeed (as far as costs) is the 17" wheels. But they're 7" wide
225 hoosiers would fit nicely. 245's up front?If not, ITR's use 15" wheels and those are cheap
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (.RJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do they alow factory trurbos in that class???
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do they alow factory trurbos in that class???
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (azroth)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by azroth »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do they alow factory trurbos in that class???</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (.RJ)
LOL. The last I knew the only turbos aloud in my area were in SPO. (SPU and SPO rules differ from region to region)
Guess I should keep up on the rule books.
Guess I should keep up on the rule books.
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">after looking at uncleben's dyno plot and seeing that he made more torque at 3k rpm then i made at peak i've almost got myself convinced to do the whole motor and be done with it. it's only money, right? </TD></TR></TABLE>
did I mention my motor is stock?
hehe... what does the d16z6 make at the crank (rated anyway)
is that a VTEC SOHC or just a newer SOHC then my d16a6? not up on my d16 engine codes. did you do any tuning while you were there?
i'll be back to the dyno in a couple-three weeks when the *cough*sunbelt*cough* head goes on
</TD></TR></TABLE>did I mention my motor is stock?
hehe... what does the d16z6 make at the crank (rated anyway)
is that a VTEC SOHC or just a newer SOHC then my d16a6? not up on my d16 engine codes. did you do any tuning while you were there?
i'll be back to the dyno in a couple-three weeks when the *cough*sunbelt*cough* head goes on
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (.RJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
RJ's got a point nate.
if i recall....GH's GS celica is up for sale! already set-up too!
<----beginning to question just how fast I want to be next year aka how much money to I wanna spend
revalved shocks... lots of falkens... corner weighting... busted suspension bolts... fresh motor.
one would think that a nice, stock class car would be more fun at this point. I'm thinking a Mazdaspeed protoge would do quite well in D Stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
RJ's got a point nate.
if i recall....GH's GS celica is up for sale! already set-up too!
<----beginning to question just how fast I want to be next year aka how much money to I wanna spend
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Re: how will the busted *** 200k civic POS run on the dyno? (solo-x)
Anywhere from 105whp to 120whp. My guess is 112whp or 107whp.
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