Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thiefs.
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Hi everyone, I just want to let you know what happened to me. Here is the complete story.
I live in Panama city, Panama and own 2 Road Racing Civics with B18C engines. I wanted to build the one I usually run to make mad power and torque so I called DPR Racing. I got Dan on the phone and we discussed what could be done. Then I emailed him what I had done and he gave me a price quote which was around $5,200 that included his cams that sell for $1,200 when I really wanted the JUN 3 or Toda Cs but he said that his cams would blow those cams away. . Well, I sent him a deposit and he started working on my parts. He was going to do a stage 6 port job, install dual springs, retainers, his cams, etc.
Well, time started passing and the price started going up. By the end, I had invested around $6,500. When he was done, Dan (which would talk to you like an old friend which seemed to be a nice person) started telling me how it would be best if I flew him to Panama ($600 plane ticked) and payed him $500 a day to supervize the installation of the parts, do a little work on my pistons and to a valve to piston clearance check. I told him that it would be too much money for all that but he convinced me telling me that he just wanted the best for me and he would take car of me.
Well, he flew down here and brougth the head and cams with him. That was on a friday. My mechanic took apart my engine(which was runnig great) and called us to begin the installation. Dan did a little cleaning on the pistons and then we began installing the head to check for clearance. We did a mock up and he did what he had to do. We left it at that I took him to the hotel. Saturday comes and we finished the installation and proceeded to crank it up. While doing it, the timming belt came off so they shot it down right away. I was not there when that happened but Dan told me about the incident. I asked Dan if we should take it apart again to make sure everything was OK and he told me that it was not necessary, that he checked it out already with a little optic tool that has a light at the end of it. He told me that everything was fine, no problems at all. We installed the belt again and proceeded to crank it up. Everything looked and sound fine and strong (well, at least while it was inside the garage). . Sunday came and we went to test the car. We went out but it was raining so the testing was limited. One thing we did noticed was the the Vtec was not engaging. We started looking why it was not working and it turned out to be a sensor but testing was over, I never felt the car working properly but he said that the car is ready to whoop some ***.
I took Dan to the airport and that was that. Race weekend came and we took the car out for practice (have not been driven yet since Dan left). I did a warm up lap, very easy on the car. Dan said that he built the head to handle 10,000 RPMs if needed but 8600 would be enough because the cams were made for torque up to 8400 RPMs. Then on the second lap of practice I took it to 7000 RPMs and the engine broke down. We went ahead and opened it up and found out that one of the valves hit the piston(forged) and broke and damaged the block and the head. They were completely ruined. He made me fly him down here, pay his fees to make sure this would not happen and it did.
I was very mad so I emailed Dan and told him what hapened and the response I got was "too bad, keep us posted". That just made me furious because I had a very strong engine and as soon as Dan works on it it breaks. SO here is were I stand and what I have paid for so far:
Over $6500 in parts and labor
$600 plane ticket
$1500 Dan fees ($500 a day X 3 days)
$400 for hotel, phone calls he did and other expenses.
Total $9000 plus a very badly broken engine.
I emailed him again and I just went all out about how mad I was and how it was his fault because he built the parts, he tuned the computer, he checked for valve clearance and supervized the entire installation.
He wanted me to ship the ruined pistons, valve, spark plugs, etc. so I did. Now I have been emailing him for weeks with no answer.
I got ripped off big time. So a word of advice, stay away from that fu..er and do not let this happen to you. DPRRACING is a big thief.
Jay
Modified by jwaked at 6:02 PM 9/22/2003
Modified by jwaked at 7:56 PM 9/22/2003
Modified by jwaked at 2:59 PM 9/23/2003
I live in Panama city, Panama and own 2 Road Racing Civics with B18C engines. I wanted to build the one I usually run to make mad power and torque so I called DPR Racing. I got Dan on the phone and we discussed what could be done. Then I emailed him what I had done and he gave me a price quote which was around $5,200 that included his cams that sell for $1,200 when I really wanted the JUN 3 or Toda Cs but he said that his cams would blow those cams away. . Well, I sent him a deposit and he started working on my parts. He was going to do a stage 6 port job, install dual springs, retainers, his cams, etc.
Well, time started passing and the price started going up. By the end, I had invested around $6,500. When he was done, Dan (which would talk to you like an old friend which seemed to be a nice person) started telling me how it would be best if I flew him to Panama ($600 plane ticked) and payed him $500 a day to supervize the installation of the parts, do a little work on my pistons and to a valve to piston clearance check. I told him that it would be too much money for all that but he convinced me telling me that he just wanted the best for me and he would take car of me.
Well, he flew down here and brougth the head and cams with him. That was on a friday. My mechanic took apart my engine(which was runnig great) and called us to begin the installation. Dan did a little cleaning on the pistons and then we began installing the head to check for clearance. We did a mock up and he did what he had to do. We left it at that I took him to the hotel. Saturday comes and we finished the installation and proceeded to crank it up. While doing it, the timming belt came off so they shot it down right away. I was not there when that happened but Dan told me about the incident. I asked Dan if we should take it apart again to make sure everything was OK and he told me that it was not necessary, that he checked it out already with a little optic tool that has a light at the end of it. He told me that everything was fine, no problems at all. We installed the belt again and proceeded to crank it up. Everything looked and sound fine and strong (well, at least while it was inside the garage). . Sunday came and we went to test the car. We went out but it was raining so the testing was limited. One thing we did noticed was the the Vtec was not engaging. We started looking why it was not working and it turned out to be a sensor but testing was over, I never felt the car working properly but he said that the car is ready to whoop some ***.
I took Dan to the airport and that was that. Race weekend came and we took the car out for practice (have not been driven yet since Dan left). I did a warm up lap, very easy on the car. Dan said that he built the head to handle 10,000 RPMs if needed but 8600 would be enough because the cams were made for torque up to 8400 RPMs. Then on the second lap of practice I took it to 7000 RPMs and the engine broke down. We went ahead and opened it up and found out that one of the valves hit the piston(forged) and broke and damaged the block and the head. They were completely ruined. He made me fly him down here, pay his fees to make sure this would not happen and it did.
I was very mad so I emailed Dan and told him what hapened and the response I got was "too bad, keep us posted". That just made me furious because I had a very strong engine and as soon as Dan works on it it breaks. SO here is were I stand and what I have paid for so far:
Over $6500 in parts and labor
$600 plane ticket
$1500 Dan fees ($500 a day X 3 days)
$400 for hotel, phone calls he did and other expenses.
Total $9000 plus a very badly broken engine.
I emailed him again and I just went all out about how mad I was and how it was his fault because he built the parts, he tuned the computer, he checked for valve clearance and supervized the entire installation.
He wanted me to ship the ruined pistons, valve, spark plugs, etc. so I did. Now I have been emailing him for weeks with no answer.
I got ripped off big time. So a word of advice, stay away from that fu..er and do not let this happen to you. DPRRACING is a big thief.
Jay
Modified by jwaked at 6:02 PM 9/22/2003
Modified by jwaked at 7:56 PM 9/22/2003
Modified by jwaked at 2:59 PM 9/23/2003
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thiefs. (jwaked)
Wow... you posted some very personal information about Dan's relaxation habits. Sounds like a messed up situation to begin with. I hope it works out in your favor. I will consider this When doing business with DPR in the future.
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thiefs. (2point6)
Damm that dude is a pimp. He made you pay for his vacation 
Just messing with you man. You should buy yourself a plane ticket and suprise him one day at his shop! Then get back your $9,000!!
Just messing with you man. You should buy yourself a plane ticket and suprise him one day at his shop! Then get back your $9,000!!
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (jwaked)
Report them to the Better Business Bureau:
http://complaints.bbb.org/Welcome.asp
You can log a complaint. Sounds like they extorted unfair costs from you for inprofessional and mis-represented services.
Good Luck.
EDIT: BBB suggests youcontact the company first. I'd folloe the directions/proceurews laid out by the BBB AFTER you get a resolution from DPR. DPR's terms and conditions all state that claims are handled by the customer returning the parts and then DPR will inspect them to detemine liability. If they appropriately compensate you, then you don't need to call the BBB. If they continue to treat you unfairly, then sick the BBB on them.
Modified by WOTTEG at 1:01 PM 9/22/2003
http://complaints.bbb.org/Welcome.asp
You can log a complaint. Sounds like they extorted unfair costs from you for inprofessional and mis-represented services.
Good Luck.
EDIT: BBB suggests youcontact the company first. I'd folloe the directions/proceurews laid out by the BBB AFTER you get a resolution from DPR. DPR's terms and conditions all state that claims are handled by the customer returning the parts and then DPR will inspect them to detemine liability. If they appropriately compensate you, then you don't need to call the BBB. If they continue to treat you unfairly, then sick the BBB on them.
Modified by WOTTEG at 1:01 PM 9/22/2003
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (jwaked)
This ais a quot from DPR's terms and conditions page:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DPR_Terms_and_Coditions »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the event that legal proceedings are required to resolve disputes or indifferences, all claims and filings must be made with a reasonable time period after purchase (7 Days). DPR Racing/DPR East Coasts Customers will acknowledge and agree to this stipulation once the transaction has been made with DPR Racing/DPR East Coast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.dprracing.com/pages/company/terms.htm
The terms and conditions NEVER mention situations where DPR is the "installer" or where they perform services. So you can take his promises/words to you in email corresponedce as the terms of your contract. Because they did not cover their butts for situations like yours in the official "Terms & Conditions".
Again, Good Luck, and I'd edit your post to remove the mention of his lifestyle preferences. That is not necessary.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DPR_Terms_and_Coditions »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the event that legal proceedings are required to resolve disputes or indifferences, all claims and filings must be made with a reasonable time period after purchase (7 Days). DPR Racing/DPR East Coasts Customers will acknowledge and agree to this stipulation once the transaction has been made with DPR Racing/DPR East Coast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.dprracing.com/pages/company/terms.htm
The terms and conditions NEVER mention situations where DPR is the "installer" or where they perform services. So you can take his promises/words to you in email corresponedce as the terms of your contract. Because they did not cover their butts for situations like yours in the official "Terms & Conditions".
Again, Good Luck, and I'd edit your post to remove the mention of his lifestyle preferences. That is not necessary.
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (jwaked)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwaked »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then on the second lap of practice I took it to 7000 RPMs and the engine broke down. We went ahead and opened it up and found out that one of the valves hit the piston(forged) and broke and damaged the block and the head. They were completely ruined.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what exactly happened - the timing belt broke?
So what exactly happened - the timing belt broke?
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (Daemione)
thats shitty man..i hope you can get everything to work in your favor and get your hard earned money back..FU*K people who shaft others..
also did you have to buy his hookers too??
adaM
also did you have to buy his hookers too??
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (Daemione)
sorry for your loss man, i am going through some bullshit right now getting my wheels from japan.
still...some of the things that he said/charged for would strike me as warning signs of shady dealings. wtf is a stage 6 port job? lol
anyways, hit up the BBB etc and take his *** to court if need be. dont let slimy ******** like this think they can step on individuals and they wont do anything about it.
still...some of the things that he said/charged for would strike me as warning signs of shady dealings. wtf is a stage 6 port job? lol
anyways, hit up the BBB etc and take his *** to court if need be. dont let slimy ******** like this think they can step on individuals and they wont do anything about it.
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (Teen Heartthrob)
I guess he saw an opportunity
and took it
hate it when they take advantage of people
dammm
opportunist..
what about if I go out there would you get me two PROSS.
and took it
hate it when they take advantage of people
dammm
opportunist..
what about if I go out there would you get me two PROSS.
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (Daemione)
No, the valve hit the piston and then broke. I will have pics tonight so you guys can see how messed up it is.
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1: You overpaid for parts/labor horribly.
2: Without exageration, either send him a bill for 9000, if he doesnt pay it, which we all know he wont, cut off his hands or some other form of maiming. Frankly, If it were me, id just kill him, all joking aside.
2: Without exageration, either send him a bill for 9000, if he doesnt pay it, which we all know he wont, cut off his hands or some other form of maiming. Frankly, If it were me, id just kill him, all joking aside.
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Re: Watch out for DPR Racing, Stole $9,000 from me. Thieves (jwaked)
jwaked:
Was your mechanic present when the timing belt "slipped" off? Was Dan present also?
Were you using Dan's cam gears?
Has your mechanic determined what caused the slip? Did Dan's behavior after the timing belt slipped indicate guilt?
I'm just wondering if the mechanic is on your side with this one, becaue the fault lies in when the timing belt slipped. And Noone should be able to tell you eerything is OK without opening the head up and taking measurements.
Was your mechanic present when the timing belt "slipped" off? Was Dan present also?
Were you using Dan's cam gears?
Has your mechanic determined what caused the slip? Did Dan's behavior after the timing belt slipped indicate guilt?
I'm just wondering if the mechanic is on your side with this one, becaue the fault lies in when the timing belt slipped. And Noone should be able to tell you eerything is OK without opening the head up and taking measurements.
