215/45-16 FALKEN AZENIS
has anyone used these tires on there civic? and if so, how did they work. any rubbing? any problems at all? i know it's not a real common tire size.
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most of us with honda/acura cars use a wheel/tire combo that is at a maximum of 23" in diameter. taller wheel/tire combo's generally hurt acceleration for us. for more information on this topic, please search for archived posts.
nate
most of us with honda/acura cars use a wheel/tire combo that is at a maximum of 23" in diameter. taller wheel/tire combo's generally hurt acceleration for us. for more information on this topic, please search for archived posts.
nate
For what its worth I run these on the street/track/autocrosses where I don't want to waste my Hoosiers. It was a tight squeeze on my Integra on a 16x7 wheel. The rear fenders have been rolled (via baseball bat method
)). The fronts will occasionally touch the top of the fender well on a BIG dip. Not really a great fit overall plus... like nate said you loose a little gearing.
)). The fronts will occasionally touch the top of the fender well on a BIG dip. Not really a great fit overall plus... like nate said you loose a little gearing.
I run that size on my 16x7.5 rims. They are NOT any taller than the stock 205/50's because of the wider rim and lower profile tire. But then again I drive a prelude and we have more room for tires than the civic.
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I cant remember this being discussed. I know of a few prelude autocrossers that use this size.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's not discussed much here (gee, i wonder why...) but at great length and frequency in the civic forums. he posted this same thread over there as well.
and how is a 215/45/16 the same height as the 205/50/15? or where you comparing it to the 205/50?/16??
nate
I cant remember this being discussed. I know of a few prelude autocrossers that use this size.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's not discussed much here (gee, i wonder why...) but at great length and frequency in the civic forums. he posted this same thread over there as well.
and how is a 215/45/16 the same height as the 205/50/15? or where you comparing it to the 205/50?/16??
nate
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15's are great - but I have wondered whether the extra rubber on the ground was worth it to use this size tire/wheel.
15's are great - but I have wondered whether the extra rubber on the ground was worth it to use this size tire/wheel.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Watkinsm3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For what its worth I run these on the street/track/autocrosses where I don't want to waste my Hoosiers. It was a tight squeeze on my Integra on a 16x7 wheel. The rear fenders have been rolled (via baseball bat method
)). The fronts will occasionally touch the top of the fender well on a BIG dip. Not really a great fit overall plus... like nate said you loose a little gearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damnit, i was gonna get these for my teg, but i figured they would fit fine...
)). The fronts will occasionally touch the top of the fender well on a BIG dip. Not really a great fit overall plus... like nate said you loose a little gearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>damnit, i was gonna get these for my teg, but i figured they would fit fine...
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Do it. Fenders are a wear item.
Do it. Fenders are a wear item.
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damnit, i was gonna get these for my teg, but i figured they would fit fine...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wasn't trying to suggest you shouldn't... I was just suggesting that fitting them may take a little extra work. Finder liners can be replaced... rear fenders can be rolled... its no big deal.
On the other hand, it should be noted that the 205/50/15 Azenis are only a tiny bit narrower then the 215s... and have a hair better gearing.
damnit, i was gonna get these for my teg, but i figured they would fit fine...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wasn't trying to suggest you shouldn't... I was just suggesting that fitting them may take a little extra work. Finder liners can be replaced... rear fenders can be rolled... its no big deal.
On the other hand, it should be noted that the 205/50/15 Azenis are only a tiny bit narrower then the 215s... and have a hair better gearing.
stock tire size 195/55 r15 =595mm or 23.42in
215/45 r16 falken =599.9 or 23.61in .....not much difference.
Yet most people are probably running 205/50 r15 which is 586mm or 23.07
So that change in Dia. was bigger than you would experience when switching to the 16" size.
I think rubbing would come down to offset and the biggest performance loss from going to a 16" falken would be the weight of those damn azenis (5lbs heavier vs my old dunlop 205/50 15 compared to the 205/50 15) I imagine the 16 is worse.
215/45 r16 falken =599.9 or 23.61in .....not much difference.
Yet most people are probably running 205/50 r15 which is 586mm or 23.07
So that change in Dia. was bigger than you would experience when switching to the 16" size.
I think rubbing would come down to offset and the biggest performance loss from going to a 16" falken would be the weight of those damn azenis (5lbs heavier vs my old dunlop 205/50 15 compared to the 205/50 15) I imagine the 16 is worse.
yeah, i'm prolly still gonna get them, its just that i didnt wanna have to do extra stuff just to make them not rub the fenders... i'm not so worried about the diameter as i am the sidewalls rubbing the fenders under hard cornering, etc. time to put a 20" lift kit on the teg... tite y0!
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One of the local civic auto-xers is running those size of azenis, and they seem to be working well for him. I don't think he had to do any mods to the fenders or anything. Then again, I don't know too much about the car
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I have them on my integra (92 though), on 16x7.5 kosei K1s (+43 offset). No fender-tire rubbing at all. I autox the car and it's been to 1 track day with the mentioned wheel/tire combo.
I have them on my integra (92 though), on 16x7.5 kosei K1s (+43 offset). No fender-tire rubbing at all. I autox the car and it's been to 1 track day with the mentioned wheel/tire combo.
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I thought you were r0llin on 15s?
anyway, you arent very lowered so I doubt it would rub at all, even if it did a little baseball bat lovin' would clear that right up
I thought you were r0llin on 15s?
anyway, you arent very lowered so I doubt it would rub at all, even if it did a little baseball bat lovin' would clear that right up
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I thought you were r0llin on 15s?
anyway, you arent very lowered so I doubt it would rub at all, even if it did a little baseball bat lovin' would clear that right up</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i give your mom some of my baseball bat rub lovin, that clears her right up... and no 15s here evan, i'm too much of a stunna for 15s, not enough of a stunna for 17s... i'll prolly be sportin the azenis come feb at vir next year
-maeng
I thought you were r0llin on 15s?
anyway, you arent very lowered so I doubt it would rub at all, even if it did a little baseball bat lovin' would clear that right up</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i give your mom some of my baseball bat rub lovin, that clears her right up... and no 15s here evan, i'm too much of a stunna for 15s, not enough of a stunna for 17s... i'll prolly be sportin the azenis come feb at vir next year
-maeng
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STi payment + 12 mpg ownz hiz azz right now
Maybe by february he'll figure out how to drive to work without attempting to push the throttle through the firewall.
</TD></TR></TABLE>STi payment + 12 mpg ownz hiz azz right now

Maybe by february he'll figure out how to drive to work without attempting to push the throttle through the firewall.
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STi payment + 12 mpg ownz hiz azz right now
Maybe by february he'll figure out how to drive to work without attempting to push the throttle through the firewall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said... i dont own an STi, it ownz me. it tells me to fill her up with gas, change her oil, wash her, and i do what she says. as a reward, i get to push the "velocitator" through the firewall for full b00st. as RJ would say, "thats disgusting..."
and evan, i still have some life in the kumhos and i would feel a lot better if i chewed those up before i drop another $450+ on azenis. i still need to get a new set of XP's and a rear caliper before nov. oh yeah, and i have a new timing belt/water pump sitting in my room that needs installation, you f00ls wanna help me out with that?
-maeng
STi payment + 12 mpg ownz hiz azz right now

Maybe by february he'll figure out how to drive to work without attempting to push the throttle through the firewall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said... i dont own an STi, it ownz me. it tells me to fill her up with gas, change her oil, wash her, and i do what she says. as a reward, i get to push the "velocitator" through the firewall for full b00st. as RJ would say, "thats disgusting..."
and evan, i still have some life in the kumhos and i would feel a lot better if i chewed those up before i drop another $450+ on azenis. i still need to get a new set of XP's and a rear caliper before nov. oh yeah, and i have a new timing belt/water pump sitting in my room that needs installation, you f00ls wanna help me out with that?
-maeng
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I get a hard-on just thinking about it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and evan, i still have some life in the kumhos and i would feel a lot better if i chewed those up before i drop another $450+ on azenis. i still need to get a new set of XP's and a rear caliper before nov. oh yeah, and i have a new timing belt/water pump sitting in my room that needs installation, you f00ls wanna help me out with that?
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I know i'm up for helping out. And we can chew those tires up for you too
Better yet, just let Gerald drive your car. He eats 712's for breakfast.
I get a hard-on just thinking about it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and evan, i still have some life in the kumhos and i would feel a lot better if i chewed those up before i drop another $450+ on azenis. i still need to get a new set of XP's and a rear caliper before nov. oh yeah, and i have a new timing belt/water pump sitting in my room that needs installation, you f00ls wanna help me out with that?
</TD></TR></TABLE>I know i'm up for helping out. And we can chew those tires up for you too

Better yet, just let Gerald drive your car. He eats 712's for breakfast.
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And we can chew those tires up for you too
Better yet, just let Gerald drive your car. He eats 712's for breakfast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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And we can chew those tires up for you too

Better yet, just let Gerald drive your car. He eats 712's for breakfast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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thanks