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I'm building a civic from the ground and I nead advice on everything.

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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I am trying to choose between parts. b18c5 or spoon b18? Possibly an h22a? Is spoon stuff worth the price. I want to focus on hanling after power so I am looking for advice on suspension as well. I have the funding to use top end parts, but I have done a lot of research and can't come to a decision. I am also looking for a shop to handle the job.
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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Which Civic?
Where do you live?

Suspension:
JIC Magic/Apex/Tein

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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any hatchback. I want it to be light, and stock components don't matter because I plan to replace them. Alot of people tell me spoon sucks. why would you ask where I live?
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:52 PM
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start with suspension then work your way to the motor....get some tein ra/rg/etc. etc. build a gsr and call it a day!
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:52 AM
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What do you plan on doing?? Boostin' or N/A? All those motors are nice. I am in favor of that B18C5.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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You should always include more info when asking questions like this. Do you want boost or all motor. Auto-cross or drag racing? Daily driver? What is your budget?
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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After Suspension, replace the Brakes with something alot better than stock Honda. The ability to go fast is garbage if you don't have the ability to stop should something happen.

good luck on the project and keep us posted with the progress

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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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since you have the funding and you are having a shop do it y dont you get a k20 out of a acura rsx type s
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dread &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any hatchback. I want it to be light, and stock components don't matter because I plan to replace them. Alot of people tell me spoon sucks. why would you ask where I live?</TD></TR></TABLE>

CX or VX HB is a definite

I asked where you live b/c if you live near NYC i could recommend a shop like you asked above^. As well as other ppl depending on your location which we dont know.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by james p. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ability to go fast is garbage if you don't have the ability to stop should something happen. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then he might as well invest in a quality driving school because the ability to go fast is garbage if he can't counter for a spin, maximize exit speeds, pick the apex line, etc. Which is why my bro and I are going to enroll in the Skip Barber 3-day Racing School. Too many people who think they're fast when they're not. If you want all-out power, swap in a H22A and boost it. Damn, that would be so much fun.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Why not mod the D series,, if its handeling he is concerned with,, then the lighter front end would benifit him greatly. that and its hella cool to see a D series lope when it idles
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Thanks for all the info. The car will be a track car, but has to be street legal for the weekends. I have about a $15g budget to start with, and depending on my results I may have more. I am defenitly staying n/a. I planned on starting with breaks and suspension, but I am trying to get an overall picture of what I want first. I live in the N.VA area.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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Track car as in road racing/ auto-X or drag? Details...

Do you even know what year/model Civic you want?

More details if you want help!!
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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is the 15g's including the car or after you purchase the car.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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not for the quarter mile, autocross. After the car. 92 or a little higher hatchback hopefully.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dread &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not for the quarter mile, autocross. After the car. 92 or a little higher hatchback hopefully.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Supercharged B18C5 for autocross with a five-lug swap and JIC magic coilovers. SSR rear sway/tiebar combo, Mugen upper strutbars front and rear, slicks on the front, something else on the back. That's just me, anyway.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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sounds good, but I'm trying to stay naturally aspirated. Suspension sounds like good advice, thank you.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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get a 92-95 si and put itr suspension on it w/a built b18c5.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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you sound like your going to build what im doing right now. a 92 EG with B18C5 and rear gsr trailing arms/brakes. also im going to be getting teins or jic for suspension. that what everyone seems to recommend.
good luck and keep us posted
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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why do you want a spoon engine? TOOLS All it is is a fuggin loosely built engine. Everyone wants one! **** Im going to start building them and make the customer wait a year after they order it to get it so people will think its a badass engine.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm building a civic from the ground and I nead advice on everything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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???
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dread &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for all the info. The car will be a track car, but has to be street legal for the weekends. I have about a $15g budget to start with, and depending on my results I may have more. I am defenitly staying n/a. I planned on starting with breaks and suspension, but I am trying to get an overall picture of what I want first. I live in the N.VA area.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Go to http://www.inlinepro.com ...they have some fast as **** drag cars and have a shop in NoVA
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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ok, spoon motors are a waste of money... they are designed for road course racing(which is good in your case), but all they are are stock components that have been balanced to within .1g ... IMO, it's not worth the money. build up a B18c1... that will give you plenty of power, and be decent on the budget.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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eg would be the car to get then I would reccomend suspension (tein) then brakes not too big ifyou are going to be using slicks every so often...anything other than stock. (B18C5 with a 15g budget) all motor is the way to go, unless you are really crazy like those of us who use acceleration like crack... H22 is king
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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Unless your racing, spoon isn't in anyway worth your money imo.
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