Well I am back at school with my R finally. Unfortunately though, there seem to be some haters about. Which brings me to my question, what is the highest HP a R can realistically make? A guy says his "boy gots a type r with like 600HP". I'm not giving it much thought, cause the same guy said his eclipse spyder (non-turbo, complete with fart can) can roast my R. Oh well, just curious

 

Rob: Highest #'s I've seen were in the low 400s, like 402hp. At the wheels. That's TurboR's or some other Turbo ITR owner on this forum.

 

sky's the limit..

 

I've seen B18C5 engines get up to 700+hp, however that it totally not street driven and also with new internals plus hella engine work and FI work. N/A R's max might hit around 250-300whp if your lucky. FI R's should be able to hit a max of about anything. Its really about the streetability and engine work.
I would call BS on your friend who claims that number. If you hit over 400whp, your name will get around! ZAlso most people think that if they buy a turbo that gives them an extra 150hp, plus get a exhaust that gives 15hp, a EMS which gives 30hp, etc... that tend to add up those numbers a claim a high hp number. As for your friend saying 600hp, lets see the dynoplot to prove it along with the mods. Most people will not give or have they info because they are a bunch of stupid ricers. Also if I did see the dyno result, I want to see the dyno's correction factor. Why you ask? Well its easy to fake high numbers on a dyno. Just check out the correction factor on the plots. If its above 1.0-1.1 then its evident that they are faking their numbers using that method. Also some tend to remove the belts, run race gas, run on cold days, etc... to raise the number. Talk about stupid. If you know your **** then you know what a car will hit when using that type of setup. Their is NO secret when it comes to modding cars. No two cars can hit different numbers when using the same setup unless factors (as mentioned earlier) are being used. Tuning is quite simple on the dyno. You tune the air/fuel ratio. If it looks good and no sign's or pinging are showing, then you raise the timing slightly. If that helps, then adjust the a/f to the new timing. Keep doing that and you will have a semi-tuned car.

Anyway basically any hp number is possible on a B18C5, its just a matter of what parts are being used, if its tuned and if the person is telling the truth. However if somone told me that they knew of a friend with a 600hp R, I would probally nod my head and say cool, lets see it...

Oh yeah here's a example of a 700+hp B18C5 JG car. They claim:
JG Pro Series B18C5 turbo race engine
JG Pro Series 1.9 liter JE pistons, Saenz rods, JG Pro Series B16A head, JG 296/300 cams, Motec M4 Pro with 1600cc injectors, JG custom intake manifold, and XS engineering turbocharger.
712.5 Hp and 461.5 Lbs. of torque at the wheels, 29 PSI of boost.




[Modified by Rboosted717, 8:30 PM 8/22/2001]

 

i don't claim to have the highest by any means but my car made 380whp with stock ecu and very safe air fuel tuning.drive it every day and it is very reliable so far.nothing stripped either.;street cars gotta have air.

 

Daayaam! 1600 cc injectors? Fuel must spray out the tail pipe at idle!

 

Judging by the size of the injectors, i would say that they are running alcohol.

Also, I doubt that figure is at the wheels, since jg likes to use their engine
dyno a lot.

 

440hp @wheel now..... I posted the dyno video and the plots before of the 402@wheels . I have obd1ecu rechipped and 370 injectors, NO STANDALONE.. Like some of u said, SKY IS THE LIMIT just need some flooooowwww.. I am way past done spending money on this car.. THATZZZZ ITTTTT, NO MOREEE..

 

Well put

 

What did you run at moroso? Have you taken it to the track yet? When you bringin that chit up to Orlando?

 

wow thats interesting. I knew the turbo guys made some impressive figures. But someone was right, something with 600hp would have been heard of. Oh well. Yeah I am getting used to just being polite, my thing is when people ask what i drive i say acura, if they ask what kind i say integra. I'm not about braggin.


peace

 

best plan. you're always going to run into idiots

 

here's a nice example of a dynoplot that has been played with to produce high results.


Notice what I underlined. 1.08 correction factor! It should be .99-1.01 at most!!!!!
With that type of correction factor, your adding a lot more power then it produced. This is only an example of shops lying about their results...

 

I went to the dynojet this past weekend and my correction factor was 1.06. I live in phoenix and in the numbers of the dyno sheet were as follows.
absolute barometric: 28.84 in.hg
vapor pressure: ..57 in.hg
Intake air temp: 94.0
Correction factor : 1.06 SAE

The CF seemed correct to me and they said they have the new DynoJet that cannot be tampered with.

here is some numbers from when I dynoed my civic a year and half ago
Barometric: 29.10 in.hg
vapor: .44 in.hg
Intake temp: 63.4

So looking at the differences in air temp you can see why my CF was that high. My car dynoed the same as everyone else's 163whp mods: 18 degress timing and a k+n filter. So I don't know where the guys with the 1.08 CF lived maybe it was denver or something.

 

I'm sorry, I fell down...

440 to the wheels in an R, dayum!

 

Well, let's see ..... he runs low 12's in his Integra all motor, and it is not even completely lightened. Still has AC/etc. ........ yeah, he's fudging his numbers ....

 

I'm curious if you live in an area with near 100% humidity with a dyno stuffed in the back corner of a non ventalated long narrow shop with nothing but turbo exhaust fumes everywhere all day.

do me a favor.....put your car on this dyno and see if you can get better results on it compared to other places. This dyno is notorious for giving the shittiest numbers anywhere and your going to sit there and say my **** was fudged? your officially insane for making that statement

try this dyno facility on for size.




and you see that day light out there? thats the only fresh air to this building which is the opposite direction of the dyno 248..and there are normally a good 3 of these supra's being worked on and a few turbo rx7's. this is their main business.



**** at this nice clean air'd facility...i'm sure to knock off a 260 with 170



Not even sure why i have to defend myself. i guess i shouldn't

 

Dummy obviously you nothing bout nothing. If you are doubting Lips car, you are pretty clueless...

 

No kidding, I had a 1.03 on a 75 degree day with the dyno located right near an overhead roll up door in a huge shop.

East Coast blows because of the air quality and humidity.

 

i say to doubting Lip

 

Boys, boys... it's all fun and bench racing games until you line up at the light... or is it lose an eye...

 

dats da fact jack

 

uhh.....

to get back on topic, I'd say the answer to your original question is "how much do you want to spend?" or "how fast do you want to go?"

 

I like the fact that TurboR and turbotypeR were able to make those kind of hp figures with Honda ECU's rather than Hondata of DFI. I'm not a big fan of standalone systems, since they're not very user friendly for real world use. I have a 95 ECU in my Turbo car but it hasnt been dynoed yet. I'm guessing wheel hp in the high 200's with my current set up.

RC 370cc injectors, AEM fuel rail, Vortech boost dependent FMU, Walbro pump, MSD 6AL, MSD coil, '95 GSR ECU (stock program), Tial BOV, Greddy wastegate, Mitsubishi TD04 @ 10 psi, 3 inch exhaust, and stock B18C1 w/lightly ported head.

I have a question for you guys that run stock type ECU's, are you using any piggybacks?

 

We use the afc on the ls. Hey H-Pimp your car runs 370 injectors with no piggy back? From my experience the highest injector to run on a stock ecu with no piggy back is 310's but i could be wrong.
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