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typeR block with 2nd gen. JDM b16a head????

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 11:54 PM
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this thread is for my cousin. its his question so if your gonna flame, flame at my cousin(Joe) not me(JayDieM). ok is having a b16 head on a typeR block worth it? or should you just go the CR/LS-Vtec route?( i have been doing some searches in regards to this topic and came up empty)... but im sure there is a little minor adjustments to do to the b16 head to match the typeR bottom like, P&P, Valve job? or there isnt minor adjustments... because i know a b16's and c5's are a lot similar. so tell me what you guys think about this combo. is it good? bad? gay? pointless? or ya know....so if this is a gay thread then you can delet it. I was just doing what 17 year olds do best ask questions.... and it would be much appreciated if anybody has a link(s) to dyno graphs relating to my question. and if i do this set-up it will be for N/A. plus with the typeR block with b16 head, wut components do i use??? like what timing belt? ARP head-bolts? ya know **** like that inform me....

Check out this nice *** set-up....juss wanna share


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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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its basically a poor mans type R motor... to make it cheaper you could go with a c1 block but it wouldnt be as much power... also youd only be able to rev it to the lowest components capability.. which in this case is the head which is 8200 rpm's

overall would be a nice motor and very easy to upgrade
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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wouldn't it be just as easy to find a complete c5 motor/head than worrying about finding the c5 block and THEN buying another head, that's not quite as good? you'd need p%p, lightweight R COMPLETE valvetrain, and cams to make a b16 head type r level. although a good port and polish to a b16 head will be just as good or better than a type r's, wouldn't it be easier getting it all put togethere from honda and not parting out all that extra labor?
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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yA well there arent too many people out there who would trade there TypeR motor for a 2nd gen. JDM b16a+cash...... s0 i figure why not try something new(to me) and see how it all works out but all the Mods. that youve listed were **** that i was going to do anyways..s0 hopefully it all w0rks out fine

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Default Re: typeR block with 2nd gen. JDM b16a head???? (JayDieM)

There's nothing wrong with using a B16 head on an R block. I'd rather start with an R head, but hey, you work with what you can. The LS or CR Vtec set up will make more torque, and possibly more power, but shouldn't be revved as high unless the bottom end is built for it. Some people will argue about reliability, but that's a whole other thread.
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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the b16 head is a PR3 head, correct?

the c5 head is PR3-02, correct?

i think the major difference is the P&P
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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like i stated earlier.. its the same head minus the IM TB, minor port and polish and the cams,springs and retainers
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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0k kew... well all i need is P&P and Up the valve train....i already have a JDM ITR Intake Manifold and T/B and not that it counts but i also have a JDM 4.785 LSD ITR Tranny. VEry VEry VEry nice......
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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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hard to say NOT Get the ITR head for a stock heat thats one of the best. The cam lift is great and the Vtec kicks in nasty too. With some cam adjustment you can pull out alittle more HP out of the motor
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Old Sep 21, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK9Greg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hard to say NOT Get the ITR head for a stock heat thats one of the best. The cam lift is great and the Vtec kicks in nasty too. With some cam adjustment you can pull out alittle more HP out of the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

Once again, the ITR and B16 head is the same, other than the mild p/p and valvetrain. The VTEC crossover "kick" that you're referring to is due to the ITR cams, not the head.
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