Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users
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Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users
Just wanted to let you guys know we have a new product for the 88-91 CRX. This plug kit will shave about 35 lbs. The kit weighs 2 lbs plus it looks good. Here are a few pictures of one installed on a b16 turbo crx.
Before
Holes Drilled using lacating tool included in the kit
Brackets mounted, notice they don't go lower than the flange
Panel bolted to the car top with countersunk machine screws and tiny nylocks, these will come in black or silver
Drive rivet, no rivet gun required, just tap the back and attach the bracket to the car
Taped off and ready to seal the gap
Black silicon applied with finger and ice cube to smooth the silicon. Silicon will not stick to the silicon
Finished with smooth seal
The sunroof plug itself is a prepreg carbon, fabric/uni panel that is glossy on both the inside and outside and UV clear coated. It fits flush with the body line and when you install the headliner you don't even see the brackets. Install time is about 2 hours and it comes with all the instructions and a template for bracket mounting.
If you haven't taken your sunroof out you will be amazed at how heavy it is. Weight is bad but weight up high is very bad. This will improve the performance of your car. The only downside is you can't open your sunroof unless you un-install.
Next cars to get these are the 92-95 hatch, 94+ teg, and the 99-00 SI
We also sell flexible carbon, which is just a very thin single ply of glossy carbon with adhesive applied to the back. It looks just like our thicker plates. You can cut it to fit your car with scissors. This is of course if you just want the looks of carbon and still want to use your sunroof but then you don't get the weight savings.
Before
Holes Drilled using lacating tool included in the kit
Brackets mounted, notice they don't go lower than the flange
Panel bolted to the car top with countersunk machine screws and tiny nylocks, these will come in black or silver
Drive rivet, no rivet gun required, just tap the back and attach the bracket to the car
Taped off and ready to seal the gap
Black silicon applied with finger and ice cube to smooth the silicon. Silicon will not stick to the silicon
Finished with smooth seal
The sunroof plug itself is a prepreg carbon, fabric/uni panel that is glossy on both the inside and outside and UV clear coated. It fits flush with the body line and when you install the headliner you don't even see the brackets. Install time is about 2 hours and it comes with all the instructions and a template for bracket mounting.
If you haven't taken your sunroof out you will be amazed at how heavy it is. Weight is bad but weight up high is very bad. This will improve the performance of your car. The only downside is you can't open your sunroof unless you un-install.
Next cars to get these are the 92-95 hatch, 94+ teg, and the 99-00 SI
We also sell flexible carbon, which is just a very thin single ply of glossy carbon with adhesive applied to the back. It looks just like our thicker plates. You can cut it to fit your car with scissors. This is of course if you just want the looks of carbon and still want to use your sunroof but then you don't get the weight savings.
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (PoWeRBaN_PaNdA)
nice work, except, it's worthless in most respects except show cars.
If you are road racing, you can't use carbon fibre, metal plug/rivet factory sunroof only. (some classes/sanctioning bodies may differ)
If you are autocrossing, it's an illegal mod, except for mod classes (even then it might be illegal).
If you're drag racing, you'd just weld a whole new panel (be lighter than carbon fibre insert).
If you're daily driving, most would rather have a sunroof.
But, that's pretty good work and construction.
If you are road racing, you can't use carbon fibre, metal plug/rivet factory sunroof only. (some classes/sanctioning bodies may differ)
If you are autocrossing, it's an illegal mod, except for mod classes (even then it might be illegal).
If you're drag racing, you'd just weld a whole new panel (be lighter than carbon fibre insert).
If you're daily driving, most would rather have a sunroof.
But, that's pretty good work and construction.
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (PoWeRBaN_PaNdA)
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We will have the integra done in late October. Here are the prices.
It comes in four flavors.
1. Water Jet cut panel alone no-clear coat $222
1. Water Jet cut panel alone with clear $262
2. Plug kit with everything included no clear coat $320
3. Plug kit complete - with uv clear coat, brackets, black loctite silicon, drive rivets, instructions, template, bracket locating tool, machine screws, and tiny nylocks $360
You can get away without using a clear coat but then every 6 months or so you need to apply a composite protectant, sort of like sunblock for carbon fiber. This is available for like $7 a bottle but you need to do something to protect it.
I realize this a lot more than the fiberglass plugs available but its also lighter and a complete kit.
We will have the integra done in late October. Here are the prices.
It comes in four flavors.
1. Water Jet cut panel alone no-clear coat $222
1. Water Jet cut panel alone with clear $262
2. Plug kit with everything included no clear coat $320
3. Plug kit complete - with uv clear coat, brackets, black loctite silicon, drive rivets, instructions, template, bracket locating tool, machine screws, and tiny nylocks $360
You can get away without using a clear coat but then every 6 months or so you need to apply a composite protectant, sort of like sunblock for carbon fiber. This is available for like $7 a bottle but you need to do something to protect it.
I realize this a lot more than the fiberglass plugs available but its also lighter and a complete kit.
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (Driven)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Driven »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice work, except, it's worthless in most respects except show cars.
If you are road racing, you can't use carbon fibre, metal plug/rivet factory sunroof only. (some classes/sanctioning bodies may differ)
If you are autocrossing, it's an illegal mod, except for mod classes (even then it might be illegal).
If you're drag racing, you'd just weld a whole new panel (be lighter than carbon fibre insert).
If you're daily driving, most would rather have a sunroof.
But, that's pretty good work and construction.
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With SCCA you are correct in some classes but not all.
In road racing, same deal.
In drag racing you could weld in a metal panel but carbon is lighter than metal. The plates we use are 196 grams per square foot. It would have to be pretty thin gauge metal to get the same weight. Also you don't need to have a welder or know how to weld to install this. Plus you don't have to do a bunch of body work (sanding/painting) inside and out to make it look good. If you have a drill and a hammer you can do this in your garage. Ohh one other thing is you can remove this in less than an hour and bolt the factory one back in.
As far as daily driven cars are concerned it just depends on how far you want to go. There are thousands of Hondas with no ac and ripped out interiors with strong motors running on the street. It's proven that some people will pass up comfort in trade for speed.
One other thing you didn't mention. Why would sanctioning bodies force you to keep your stock panel? Because it would be a speed edge! Everyone raise your hands if you want more performance from your car... Taking 35lbs off the very highest point of your car instantly decreases the force trying to shift weight when you corner. I appreciate your concerns but I think you are nit-picking to some extent.
If you are road racing, you can't use carbon fibre, metal plug/rivet factory sunroof only. (some classes/sanctioning bodies may differ)
If you are autocrossing, it's an illegal mod, except for mod classes (even then it might be illegal).
If you're drag racing, you'd just weld a whole new panel (be lighter than carbon fibre insert).
If you're daily driving, most would rather have a sunroof.
But, that's pretty good work and construction.
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With SCCA you are correct in some classes but not all.
In road racing, same deal.
In drag racing you could weld in a metal panel but carbon is lighter than metal. The plates we use are 196 grams per square foot. It would have to be pretty thin gauge metal to get the same weight. Also you don't need to have a welder or know how to weld to install this. Plus you don't have to do a bunch of body work (sanding/painting) inside and out to make it look good. If you have a drill and a hammer you can do this in your garage. Ohh one other thing is you can remove this in less than an hour and bolt the factory one back in.
As far as daily driven cars are concerned it just depends on how far you want to go. There are thousands of Hondas with no ac and ripped out interiors with strong motors running on the street. It's proven that some people will pass up comfort in trade for speed.
One other thing you didn't mention. Why would sanctioning bodies force you to keep your stock panel? Because it would be a speed edge! Everyone raise your hands if you want more performance from your car... Taking 35lbs off the very highest point of your car instantly decreases the force trying to shift weight when you corner. I appreciate your concerns but I think you are nit-picking to some extent.
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (ChaseIntegra)
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (mugen85r)
Here are some pics of the silicon job we did, Ice works great
Here is a picture of the interior with silicon, we didn't do a prefect job on this but it all depends how much time you take to tape off the bottom of the gap
Here is an inside shot with the headliner installed
Another inside shot, I thought you would be able to hide the brackets but at an angle they are visible. You could probably cover that with weather stripping if it bothers you
Here is another from directly below
Here is a picture of the interior with silicon, we didn't do a prefect job on this but it all depends how much time you take to tape off the bottom of the gap
Here is an inside shot with the headliner installed
Another inside shot, I thought you would be able to hide the brackets but at an angle they are visible. You could probably cover that with weather stripping if it bothers you
Here is another from directly below
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (ggangtong81)
awesome work man. there was some other guy that was makin cf sunroof inserts for 92-95 and 96-00 cars and u could still open it i think. not sure though.
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Re: Carbon fiber sunroof plug for 88-91 CRX Beware 56K users (crx12)
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point is, you still have to have some kind of covering that is metal, afaik.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's proven that some people will pass up comfort in trade for speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Unfortunely, you're probably right.
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Not exactly, a slight safety concern as well.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I appreciate your concerns but I think you are nit-picking to some extent. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm just thinking of the people who actually look to race their cars in the future. Like, sanctioned racing.
point is, you still have to have some kind of covering that is metal, afaik.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's proven that some people will pass up comfort in trade for speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Unfortunely, you're probably right.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Because it would be a speed edge! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not exactly, a slight safety concern as well.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I appreciate your concerns but I think you are nit-picking to some extent. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm just thinking of the people who actually look to race their cars in the future. Like, sanctioned racing.
