http://energysuspension.com/

does anyone have any experience with the full urethane bushing kit that thye offer. How do they feel. is it worth the upgrade?

noise?

thx for any info.

 

Big pain in the *** to install, but definitely worth it.

Be sure to use lots of grease & noise shouldn't be an issue.

There are some parts that most people don't use & there are parts that are not included in the "complete" kit (e.g., front sway bar bushings, shifter, motor mounts, rear trailing arm).

HTH.

Loc

 

i have this kit as well but i havent installed it yet? do u think the avergae person can install most of these bushings themselves? if you want email me cause i may sell it anyway

 

Its worth it but let me warn you it will be a very intense, lengthy install, and if you do decide to go for it an impact wrench is a NECESSICITY. A great place to buy the kit or the individual bushings is http://www.suspension.com that's where I've bought all of mine and they have the best prices, and great customer service.

 

wow, the install that bad. How long would it take an average person? Also, how do they perform? What kind of differences could i feel?

 

You will need to burn the old bushings out with a torch and then cut the sleeves with a hacksaw. Then you'll be able to place the new bushings in and the will need to be pressed in to fit. Everyone I have heard from says it's a bitch to do, when I bought my EF-9 it had the whole front suspension done with energy suspension bushings it handled insane even with blown shocks, I am in the process of completing the rear since they made the trailing arm bushings. If you have the time and money I would go for it

 

It would take a single person probably a few days to install the entire kit, a lot of dissassembly (followed by reassemly) is required, you are basically take apart both your front and rear suspension and then putting it back together. Its best done a little at a time.

 

A good start would be to replace your Motor Mount bushings, and your shifter bushings, they're both inexpensive and they don't come in the Master Bushing Kit. The install will let you know what your in for.


[Modified by Big Ed, 4:43 PM 8/22/2001]

 

I had the master kit, then I took it back and said get rid of all the BS and just gimme the stuff that works and helps handleing. And that reduced the kit to a more resonable price and amount of parts. Alot of what comes in the kit is just for looks and doesn't serve any purpose. And don't bother getting any colors just get black cuz they end up that color anyway when you are done. If you do it yerself plan on taking a weekend, I had mine done at a shop and it took them all day with two guys, a lift, airwrenches, and a press. You don't feel too much at low speeds and daily driving...it kicks in when ya need to corner hard or at high speeds. And I also use some stuff in a can called greasless lube, it lubricates but doesn't make everything greasy.

 

Sup MintyDip. The kid isnt as hard to install as it is time consuming. I believe that the hardest part would be the motor mounts if you get them, its the rear one that will kill you. Either way, if you get all the pieces except for the motor mounts expect for the ride to be much more responsive and firmer since you will be eliminating the rubber bushings. Squeaking is a very serious problem and must be delt with accordingly before the install unless you want to live in pain for the rest of the time those things are on the car.

Before you install them and after be sure to use a lubricant. I recommend a product called Wurths HHS 2000. It will stand up to the elements and should only have to be reapplied every 6mo or more depending on conditions (in socal you shouldnt worry about reapplying it that often). I do believe that you will like the more stiffer and responsive ride so long as your willing to live with the increased ride stiffness. The worst thing that can come from this mod will be the noise if the lube just cant stand up to the task, this is why you should get a good one to begin with and spray it on liberally.

 

The Mugen Bushings are rubber, so you don't have to worry about squeaking, and they include metal sleeves so you don't need to reuse your old ones. Makes it easier to install. However, they cost twice to three times as much so...