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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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OK I went to the dyno today. 418WHP Vette, 320WHP RX7, 220WHP turbo Miata(Greddy15G), 200WHP 3rd gen Prelude(total sleeper), and then there was me. 111.0 WHP & 95.2FTlbs . Its better then when I went in Feb 02,109.1HP&95.7FTbs, but I'm not happy w/ it. An ideal A/F for a N/A Honda at WOT is 13.2-13.8, this thing is dipping into the 12's. Shes aperently smoking black, which isn't SO bad but I hate the smell of anything burning. With 144,XXX on the ticker I think its time for a pre-boost build. Here's the chart...

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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I think it may be time for a new engine. Unless you're set on having a D series to boost, you might end up spending a little more money but starting with a better platform if you pick up a nice B-series engine, as opposed to building up the one you have.

Both are good routes though.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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yeah man... just save up your change and invest in a solid b-series man
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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what is your setup...because going on rule of thumb 15% loss to wheels for manual...you're 4 HP over stock (107 HP) what are your mods?
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Do you know of any place for good pricing on JDM B-series motor? I dont trust ebay much.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HATCHingMN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you know of any place for good pricing on JDM B-series motor? I dont trust ebay much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Hop on the B-Series bandwagon!
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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OK. I won't be swaping so I'd like no more B-series talk in this thread. Thanks!

Set Up:D16Z6
Intake
62mm Throttle body
Skunk2 Intake manifold
Cam gear (advanced 6 degrees)
UR pulley set
3" cat-back
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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you might be lossing some torque with the 3 inch cat back
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic_95_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK. I won't be swaping so I'd like no more B-series talk in this thread. Thanks!

Set Up:D16Z6
Intake
62mm Throttle body
Skunk2 Intake manifold
Cam gear (advanced 6 degrees)
UR pulley set
3" cat-back</TD></TR></TABLE>

not to be mean but i have seen some d16a6's with less mods putting out as much or a lil more then that..

what car do you have this swap in? what are you running in the 1/4?
black smoke, try leaning it out some. You could be loosing the power from running rich.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow_a$$_eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah man... just save up your change and invest in a solid b-series man </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree...Would recommend to get a B18C
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9mugen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you might be lossing some torque with the 3 inch cat back</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, thats not very good for an n/a dseries.

should be great for your turbo tho

i'd say just make sure your engines healthy then get turbod.. and you'll be sittin pretty. all that bseries talk is hogwash, you can build a much faster dseries turbo than any bseries(well yeah, a bseries turbo would be great.. but that ***** gnarly expensivo)

but yeah you shouldnt be smoking,
it couldnt hurt to rebuild that motor, and throw in some "for turbo" parts while your at it.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 04:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueHatch00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I agree...Would recommend to get a B18C</TD></TR></TABLE>



It would cost me more to buy a B18C, ecu, axles, blah, yadda, yadda,yadda, swap it, and build it up to hit my goal. It's not worth it.
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I know the number aren't very impressive, thats why I said "Not so good" . The motor wasn't swaped it came in the car from the factory. I haven't run the 1/4, only 1/8th. It's in my sig. It would be a mid-low 15 in the 1/4.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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here is my dyno from way back in the day. 95 Si, D16Z6.

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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is my dyno from way back in the day. 95 Si, D16Z</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats more like it.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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gotta love d16z6's...redline is 7,200 yet they make max power at 6,600 and then drop horribly...
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic_95_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK. I won't be swaping so I'd like no more B-series talk in this thread. Thanks!

Set Up:D16Z6
Intake
62mm Throttle body
Skunk2 Intake manifold
Cam gear (advanced 6 degrees)
UR pulley set

3" cat-back</TD></TR></TABLE>

Could that 6 degree advance be causing him a loss?
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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The cam gear is set for more torque/low end. When it was installed the mechanic set it to that. When I build the motor I plan on going back to the stock cam timing.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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3inch exhaust on your engine is probably costing you a shitload of low-end torque. I hope the only reason you have that is because your gonna go turbo. Also i'd set the cam timing back and see how it does then.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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I had great results with mine advanced only 4degrees... 6 seems very high
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope the only reason you have that is because your gonna go turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You are correct.
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