I have ben thinking about turboing my eg hatch bith a b16. but turbos usualy have alot of problems and I have herd that VTEC doesn't go well with turbos.

just looking for some good advice on turbo ed and all motor b16's.
some pros. and cons. about turbo ed and all motor b16's.
hp and tq specs for built all motor and turbo ed b16's!

pleas explane why you would do one or the other.

thanks for you time!!

 

turbo b16
All motor b16 Good luck

I never heard that vtec doesn't like turbo? Check out some of the threads (or even do a search) in the Forced induction section, and vistit the all motor section.

Turbo will ultimately be faster, so you just have to decide what the car is going to be doing the majority of the time, so that the power reflects what its designed to do. IE: track racing, drag racing, or even autocross.

 

turbo b16. I had lots of luck with mine. check out my website

 

B16's are great for boost it's all about the tuning

 

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Clean setup, wheres the website though? Still under construction?

 

I would go turbo over all motor. Its easier to go faster. But if you want to go all motor then go for it just look into a B20 bottom end

 

There is more of a claim to having an all motor car that trounces cars with larger engines than itself, or turboed cars.

Plus I have heard on many occasions that turbos are a lot of hassle because you have to keep them in tune more, and they also put you more at risk of blowing your motor.

No replacement for displacement. Turbos are the Swedish ***** enlargers of honda tuning.

 

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Plus I have heard on many occasions that turbos are a lot of hassle because you have to keep them in tune more, and they also put you more at risk of blowing your motor.

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Yes you have to tune your turbo car alittle more then your all motor car, but by the time you get an all motor b16 to hang anywhere close to a mild turbo b16, the all motor one is going to need as much if not more tuning / repairs then the mild turbo b16..

I know turbo's are a big investment . one big lump item vrs a bunch of small items that add up to more $ and less hp...

Although there is a certian amount of pride among the All motor guys( and I don't blame them) it takes alot of time/ effort/ knowledge/money to get a really good all motor setup going....

On the other hand it just takes some alot of money(about 3500) with someone else doing the work, or about 2600 and Doing it yourself( nothing feels as good as doing the wrenching yourself!) I haven't seen a daily driving all motor b16 with 0ver 200whp ever... I have seen alot of over 250whp turbo b16's running around town!

 

thanks for the educated replies!

so turbo it the way to go.

would you make a kit or would you buy a kit?
if you would buy a kit what kit would you buy?
if you where to make a kit what would you use. (a list of the components you would use would be nice)

thanks for you time!!!!

 

max rev kit 2400
upgrade the BOV 200
upgrade oil return line 75
hondata s200 with boost 420
p28 ecu from hondata 250 (you can get this cheaper)
walbro intank fuel pump 100
550 injectors 200-500
youll also probly want a boost controller and some gauges to keep an eye on things

im gonna be useing a similar setup as soon as my turbo gets rebuilt

try ksmotorsports

 

Too many noobs replying to this, good thing they pointed you the right way.

Turbo is one of those things wehre there is potential for problems (as with anything), but if put together properly and the boost is kept to resonable levels, you can have a lot of trouble-free turbo days. You can easially make 325whp with 8psi and a tune, where as I'd probably cut you a check for $50 if you could make 200whp with all-motor.

All motor B16 is a tough proposition. With the stroke and deck height, even with the high-domed B16B pistons, you might get your compression ratio to reach 11:1.... yay. Compression ratio is the foundation of an all-motor set-up, and unfortunatly, your B16 block won't yield a high CR.

 

so what is the best way to go about turboing a b16?
what kits are the best or should I just make my own?

 

redline201

thanks for the list!!

 

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exactly... b16s are fun to boost. to get any tq or hp out of all motor it will cost alot more to go n/a and it would be more likely to have problems. (assuming you dont buy a **** turbo kit)

 

so what are some good kits?

 

ttt

 

One thing to keep in mind is that it is easier to make power on a turbo car and still have it reliable enough to be a daily driver. If you go all-motor, then you may start to sacrifice reliability and your gains will basically be limited to high RPM range.

It really isn't a matter of which is easier, just decide what you want to do with your car and more importantly are there things that you *NEED* to do with your car (i.e. get to work).

 

so what is the best turbo set up for a b16?

 

Depends on your purpose. I had a lot of fun with all-motor and got really good results from my b16 for being pretty stock, but now it's time for boost for me.

 

325 whp @ 8psi? How is this possible?

 

If you have access to a good tuning shop, turbo is the way to go.

 

what turbo should I get??????

 

Sounds like you're new to the whole turbo thing, so a kit would probably be best for your first attempt. Rev Hard Stage 2.

 

ow thanks you that is what I was looking for!! ]

yes turbos are new looking to lern something!
I was thinking a kit would be best!!

thanks where can a get one for a good deal?