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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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I got some cash to spend...I was wondering which should I go ahead and get...which yeilds better gains overall?
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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Header will make a very noticable improvement.

Get the ECU later.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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I have a JDM ITR header with a new carsound cat and Mugen Exaust for sale. $1000
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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Header first. Then, ECU. If you do it other way, you won't gain any HP.

I had JDM 4-1 header, then purchase Kenji ECU. Even with I/H/E mod on my car, Kenji's ECU runs real rich A:F. You'll need at least a V-AFC to tune it.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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I am gonna have to say get the header and cat.
I guess i am a little on sided here sinc ia trying to sell my header and cat
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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i have heard a lot of good things about Kenji's work though. I wouldnt want to have to buy a chipped p28 and then have to tune it with a vafc...might as well go for Hondata...just my thoughts, any other suggestions?
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gravity &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am gonna have to say get the header and cat.
I guess i am a little on sided here sinc ia trying to sell my header and cat</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i sent kenji an email also...just debating
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98cwitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have heard a lot of good things about Kenji's work though. I wouldnt want to have to buy a chipped p28 and then have to tune it with a vafc...might as well go for Hondata...just my thoughts, any other suggestions?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, with my '01 I woul've had to run the following setup to get maximum output:
1. Kenji P28 ECU
2. Kenji Harness adaptor
3. V-AFC

These would've run me close to $650. That's almost in the PowerFC territory. The ECU might be good for plug-n-play, but if you're utimately tuning your car, you might as well go Hondata or PowerFC w/ datalogger.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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so if I just slap a chipped p28 in my R with i/h/e what kind of gain am i looking at. I know right now im running rich as hell anyways (fuel deposits on my exhaust, yeah its bad)
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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I have a dyno chart, if you want to see stock ECU vs. Kenji P28. Both with I/H/E.

I gained midrange... 'cuz VTEC was lowered to ~5,000 or something. You really need to tune your ITR after you get Kenji P28 ECU.

Personall, I would save up money and get PowerFC w/ datalogger. More tuning potential.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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is hondata and PowerFC basically the same thing?

EDIT: I would like to see the dyno if you have it....
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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Im using Kenji's ECU with i/h/e, and compared with the stock ecu, the midrange is much much improved, with the powerband being a hell of a lot smoother than stock. Id highly recommend it to anyone!
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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kenji´s ecu
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98cwitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is hondata and PowerFC basically the same thing?

EDIT: I would like to see the dyno if you have it....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll try to fine it, take a picture and post it online this weekend. (Asahi & Kengs can vouch for the validity of my claim.)

Kenji's ECU is good, don't get me wrong. But, if you are on stock I/H/E, then you would be definitely better off with a JDM header now. That's power you can feel right away.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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You'll find what you're looking for here...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=335052
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CPR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'll find what you're looking for here...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=335052</TD></TR></TABLE>

very good midrange...i think Ill try it!
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Thanks for the kind words about my ECU.

When using my ECU it is best to use a VAFC to dial in the fuel settings.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

-kenji
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kenji &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the kind words about my ECU.

When using my ECU it is best to use a VAFC to dial in the fuel settings.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

-kenji</TD></TR></TABLE> I run your mugen spec p28 right now on my jdm itr motor. The tuner at the shop where i pulled the dyno run (178 whp on jdm itr motor w/ jdm itr 4 to 1, jdm itr cat, and greddy evo) was very impressed with the program. He said all we need to do is lean it out a bit and it should put me in the 180s...I was thinking of getting hondata earlier on but he said a vafc would be all I needed to tune the program. (plan on leaving it relatively stock)
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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no matter how much power mods you do, it is never enough...

suspension or tires
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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aint got enough for the suspension i want

tires...yeah well i do need those but stockers arent used up yet

so why not just get a V-AFC and tune it with my P73 ECU?
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98cwitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aint got enough for the suspension i want

tires...yeah well i do need those but stockers arent used up yet

so why not just get a V-AFC and tune it with my P73 ECU? </TD></TR></TABLE> maps arent optimized to make most power out of your mods....but then again you can do that for just bolt on tuning. But you should really at least get i/h/e before doing some tuning.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Threatcon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> maps arent optimized to make most power out of your mods....but then again you can do that for just bolt on tuning. But you should really at least get i/h/e before doing some tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the best thing I think. Might as well and get my valvetrain done too while im at it
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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i have a kenji ecu and obd1 harness, i would be willing to trade for stock ECU and cash...........
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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I have the ECU and it runs rich! It works very well but you really need the VAFC.

Get the header first!!! then get hondata
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98cwitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so why not just get a V-AFC and tune it with my P73 ECU? </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you already have a header, you can get V-AFC and get substantial mid-range by playing with VTEC x-over and fuel settings. When you're ready, bring the car up to ATL, we'll get it tuned to your liking.
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