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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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hey guys
i just bought a 2000 Civic Si/SiR, and i wanted to install headers that would give me the best output possible. i was jus wonderin wut ur guys opinion was on who makes the best headers. ive tryed lookin on the internet for info but couldnt find any.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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Get ready for some replies that tell you it is HEADER.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pho Real &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get ready for some replies that tell you it is HEADER.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol , the best header for the amount that you pay is the 4-1 JDM ITR header .
also you have Toda , spoon , mugen and plenty more . I dont have the link at this moment , but if some one else dont post it i will "The great header test ". which will give you a good idea to compare different types of header
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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im sorry sorry header
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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It is just one sorry

I had a Comptech on my b16 and I thought it was alright.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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wut kinda diff do headers make on an engine? like ive been told it increases torque on both low and high and increases the power band or sumthin like that
i know i sound like a dum face but im curious
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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4-2-1 You get mid gains but little to no top end gain.
4-1 you get little to zero mid gains, but more top end.

Some will say a 4-2-1 robs power from the top and some say a 4-1 robs power from the bottom end.


Modified by Pho Real at 11:24 PM 9/4/2003
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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are the stock manifolds on 00 SiRs any good , or would a performance header be way better?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pho Real &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get ready for some replies that tell you it is HEADER.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup...everyone on this board is ****....but yeah pho real pretty much covered it....
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MickSiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the stock manifolds on 00 SiRs any good , or would a performance header be way better?
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Well...there stock....thats why poeple upgrade
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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i didnt say headerS in my last post......
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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anybody else want to ridicule me or give me any input on the subject?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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if u dont want to wast time and money on a aftermarket just port the oem header out.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pho Real &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get ready for some replies that tell you it is HEADER.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pho Real &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4-2-1 You get Low to mid gains but little to no top end gain.
4-1 you get little to zero low-mid gains, but more top end.

Some will say a 4-2-1 robs power from the top and some say a 4-1 robs power from the bottom end.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ehh kinda

4-2-1 gives more midrange than anything
4-1 gives high end

NOTHING gives low end except displacment.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
NOTHING gives low end except displacment.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know this

Stroke is the big one.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you know this

Stroke is the big one.</TD></TR></TABLE>
without specifics, displacment in general

see thats why a 2.5L 6 cylinder is greater than a 1.6L 4 cylinder
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
without specifics, displacment in general

see thats why a 2.5L 6 cylinder is greater than a 1.6L 4 cylinder </TD></TR></TABLE>

But what if the 1.6 4 cylinder had more stroke than the 2.5L 6 cylinder?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Edited my post since I was corrected by the greater powers
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Im not a greater power, just correcting a slight mis-information
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But what if the 1.6 4 cylinder had more stroke than the 2.5L 6 cylinder? </TD></TR></TABLE>
it probably does have more stroke than the rb, thats a relativley small displacment 6 cylinder engine hehe.

thats why its DISPLACMENT not stroke for torque
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not a greater power, just correcting a slight mis-information </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't need anymore Mis-Info on here, that is pho sho.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it probably does have more stroke than the rb, thats a relativley small displacment 6 cylinder engine hehe.

thats why its DISPLACMENT not stroke for torque </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol. I was just trying to see if you would say something about the RB.

A bunch of fat pistons with no stroke and boost when the 1.6L has four long sticks. heh

Just playin with ya though.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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here it is " The great header test" and it should give you some ideas

http://www.automotiveperforman....html
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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holy **** where can i get a jdm spoon header? i want one for sure
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