Alright, so my question is how much of a difference in power will I make going from a 1.8 to a 2.0? The setup isn't going to be insane, most likely 12:1 cr, maybe Toda A's or EF-1 M22 or M23 cams, good header (Toda or Spoon), Skunk2 Intake Manifold and a Fujitsubo RMA01 exhaust. How true is the saying "No replacement for displacement" in this kind of a situation?

 

i must of been sleepy or drunk or both


Modified by ian at 12:33 PM 9/5/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not one for negative comments...but theres nothing insane about that setup</TD></TR></TABLE>re-read his post, he said it wasn't going to be insane.

 

If you have the cash and dont mind dropping it, go 2.0 it will make a great difference.

 

if you would have the same set up on both 1.8 and 2.0l , where it would make the huge differece would be on TQ . comparing a 1.8l around 128TQ to a 2.0l 158TQ give and take ...

 

2.0l

 

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Thanks, this is what I was looking for . What are some people's impressions that have gone from a 1.8L to a 2.0L?

 

It makes more powa matty.

A 1.8L making 200whp, would generally be a 215-220whp setup @ 2Liters with good Torque. Depends on who builds\tunes it tho.

Suprdave

 

I went from 1.8-2.0L and the torque was so noticeable. Go for it. IMO its worth it

 

torque=priceless

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It makes more powa matty.

A 1.8L making 200whp, would generally be a 215-220whp setup @ 2Liters with good Torque. Depends on who builds\tunes it tho.

Suprdave </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah but if they're a crappy tuner and can only get 180 out of the 1.8 at least they'll get the 200 out of the 2.0

 

lol... good header "Toda or Spoon"....

 

Toda Header 'is' pretty good for a 1.8L NA Motor...

Might not be enough for a healthy 2 Liter setup, tho...

Suprdave

 

2.0 should yeild atleast 140tq! even with stock ITR cams

I have a c1... someday I want to build it up to 85mm and make it a 11.8cr.

 

11.8? That's it? Man, we are running low 12:1 with 92 Octane and a stock head\ctr pistons. Untuned...

 

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yeah i know i can push it more with 93octan to aout 12:8 but my main goal is not max out my compression just yet. Also i plan on boosting 6-8psi on 85mm and adding some thicker hg to drop it down to 10.8 to 11.1cr. Not everyone has the same plans. Also running 12:1 on CTR cast pistons would be cheap and effective but somthing I would not want to do for a long term setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by furry got banned &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there won't be muh of a difference.....durh
bore really just gives some top end hp, but no real tq gains at all.

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Your a fool... /Yourself

Suprdave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by furry got banned &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there won't be muh of a difference.....durh
bore really just gives some top end hp, but no real tq gains at all.

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can i kick you in the throat?
It's not that i don't like newbies its just that i hate when people come on this site and post BS info about honda/acura applications. STFU and maybe you might learn somthing.... if not please go away

 

bore is more for hp.
storke is more for compression and tq gains.


so, why so hostile over the new guy?

 

im thinking about goin from a 1.8L to a 2.0L ...but im not sure ...i want to know the pros and cons of doing this ...or if i am goin to go 2.0L should i go and buy a crv block and work that or should i just make my Ls block a 2.0?

 

#1 Horsepower is a Function of Torque.

#2 One thing that increases Torque is displacement, doesn't matter how you come by it. Increasing Stroke will change your powerband, where increasing bore will just give you greater gains on the same powerband.

Suprdave

 

if you say so, God

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">#1 Horsepower is a Function of Torque.

#2 One thing that increases Torque is displacement, doesn't matter how you come by it. Increasing Stroke will change your powerband, where increasing bore will just give you greater gains on the same powerband.

Suprdave</TD></TR></TABLE>

well and simply put Superdave..
LOL guy I just don't like it when people try to pass on incorrect info. just trying to keep this site one of the best honda resoures sites around. Bottom line in the internet world where info is ever flowing ....what ever anyone tells you, you still have to do your own research and verify it.

hope you guys didn't think i was flaming him... LOL beaware of the real flamers.

 

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2.0ltr good setup

 

im think in goin to go 2.0 on my setup ....