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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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My car has always unbelievably tore up 1g DSMs, 5.0s, LT1 fbodies and other cars that should just *MURDER* a 4g Prelude VTEC, i'm running i/h/e/untuned v-afc, light stereo, 16x7s, ACT street clutch....

after racing my buddy's 1g talon with no exhaust, small 16G @ 15psi, severely ported exs side housing/2g manifold/evo III o2 housing, act clutch, MAF translator w/ GM 3" MAS and plenty of time spent tuning with the AFC and pocketlogger (seeing relatively no knock and 15-20 counts of timing advance to redline, EGTs look good and remain under 860c to redline).... I lost by only 3 cars 60-120 vs. his car and I began just a hair under vtec in 3rd, he gained road fully boosted right away... he and everyone else has always said my car isn't right, so we decided to do a compression test, results were:

#1: 215psi
#2: 220psi
#3: 220psi
#4: 225psi

I had 3 DSM friends/victims? there for the test and as the owner of the JDM EVO 16G 92 awd moved the compression tester from cylinder to cylinder as I cranked 4-5 times dry, hot engine, WOT... he just yelled **** YOU "it's stock"... his car was beat 30-90 by 1-2 cars while he was boosting 18psi with a rewired fuel pump and really no other mods, the car never seems to fuel cut though

this is a 1993 USDM h22a1 with approx ~85k miles and 3 years of frequent trips to redline

something done to this engine before I bought it?
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Nope, nothing special- my internally stock 5th gen gets similar numbers...
DSMs aren't anything special once they're moving... it's that AWD launch that makes 'em fast...
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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My buddys H22A1 hits 240s I believe.....nothin special...just a strong healthy motor.
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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what would you say a sleeved block w/custom
internals freshly built would give you, h22 that is?
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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why does the manual suggest 185 nominal then for USDM?
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by overdose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why does the manual suggest 185 nominal then for USDM?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No clue.
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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mine (H22A4 and blowing oil mind you) put out around 205 across the board.
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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you guys must have extreme carbon buildup inside, helms says 185 is normal. Dont ever tried to boost your engine, you will detonate like a ****!
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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No, my car put out 220 on the compression tester @ 20k miles... Honda lists it low to get fewer warranty claims...
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TraKtioN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys must have extreme carbon buildup inside, helms says 185 is normal. Dont ever tried to boost your engine, you will detonate like a ****!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really, plenty of people have boosted on the stock motor fine....look at Firedrake!

And yeah, it comes back to the warranty claims
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeyKrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not really, plenty of people have boosted on the stock motor fine....look at Firedrake!

And yeah, it comes back to the warranty claims </TD></TR></TABLE>

your missing the point, I'm talking about carbon buildup and why its bad with turbos.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TraKtioN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

your missing the point, I'm talking about carbon buildup and why its bad with turbos.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who says his motor has carbon buildup?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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I'm assuming he does because the extraordinary high compression test result, theres no other explanation unless honda states it low like others have said for warranty reasons.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Compression suggests some internal modification? (overdose)

wow, so you finally did a comp test eh?

Didn't you tell me a while ago you had a good amount of carbon/smoke coming out of your exhaust when racing?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by overdose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
something done to this engine before I bought it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

head possibly shaved?
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