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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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does anyone have a 93-95 legend with a type II motor and 6 speed tranny?
if so, what mods have you done to it and how is the power so far?
also, i know there isnt to much aftermarket support for these, but do you know of any companies that make cams for these motors?
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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no cams no nothing. Headers aren't even made for this beast
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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A friend of mine has a 94 and hes got a Ractive Ram Intake, I know that sux but its better than nothing i'm pretty sure AEM makes and intake and I know for a fact that AEM Pulleys and Cam Gears will fit the Legend. Also Apexi N1 cat back Exhausts sound good on this car also.
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 01:36 AM
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Are the Acorrd V6 parts interchangeable with the legend parts? I would love to trick out my fathers 94 legend, that things a beast bone stock! Pulls like crazy above 100mph
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92`Legend &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no cams no nothing. Headers aren't even made for this beast </TD></TR></TABLE>

are you referring to the regular legend motor or the type II? sorry i dont know the engine codes.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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not much action in this fourm?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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first off the n1 doesn't fit the legend. Go to this site and do some reasearch

http://www.legend.org then click on performance, and then you will realize that the only thing you can do to your legend motor is to run nos.

second the accord motor's parts don't fit in the legends. Rumors went around that the NSX parts could fit into a legend. But they don't
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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headers are in the process or being made, I along with a few other people make cold air intake pipes for legends. you can buy hiflo cats anywhere...Stromung makes B pipes, and a guy i know makes downpipes. http://www.importfan.com is either in the process or has already made headers for the G2 legend so we will see soon.

what else...i think i have heard of the design of swaybars, and strut tower braces are already made of course (MLS makes one and KMS development (the one you see on ebay is the KMS)

remus makes mufflers, stromung, greddy makes a catback system...i have a remus universal muffler and i love it (remus twin '02)

there are multiple people working turbocharger setups, and on the down low there is someone in the preliminary makeup of a supercharger kit...so that should be fun.

lots of information can be found at http://www.acura-legend.com at the forums...there are LOTS of very intelligent people when it comes to legends.

here is my car...it is a 92 black on black LS coupe 5 speed. 18" 5Zigen 6 speed wheels (18x7.5 48 offset Hyperblack) cold air intake, konis, and soon to have ground control coilovers.



PM me, IM me at promodojo55 or anything like that if you have questions. I DO make cold air intakes for legends. They can be annodized, powdercoated, or ceramic coated, comes with K&N filter and all the instructions on how to remove the stock one or add on for a car with a ram air setup.

EDIT: i forgot to say....

you all said something about NSX parts and the legend. with modifications you can fit the headers from the NSX as far as I know. it is basically the same setup as the legend engine...just flipped around.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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thanks for the info
but, the parts you make and/or can get, are they for the regular legend motor? or for the type II motor?
btw: very nice car
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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it is for all generation 2 engines. I am trying to find 1 of my friends that has TCS so i can get them measured for those...but currently it is ONLY for NON-TCS generation 2 legends (coupe and sedans)
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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there has been rumors about people making turbo kits, supercharger for years. But it comes down to the tranny. The tranny won't hold the power. You make cold air intakes? he is gonna have to cut the hell outta his engine bay to get that thing to actually be cold air... stick with a short ram style.

If you go turbo, your gonna f*ck your legend. Leave the motor alone till someday we can build it. Or wait for the 2004 tl with 280 hp....

btw nice legend, but legends weren't made for speed they were made for looks and luxury.

also when did sway bars come out for the legend? The only thing close to that that I ever saw were cheap tower bars...


EDIT: o and when I said that there wasn't anything you could do to the motor execpt run NOS, i ment that as something to create power that is actually noticable. intake won't make much of a power difference of exhaust.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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no you dont have to cut the hell out of the engine bay, you dont have to cut anything. you remove the stock airbox, along with the resonator...and you put the pipe in place of that.




see? it is a very simple process actually.

anyway, sway bars are being tested http://www.sanerperffab.com/ can also custom make them and are ready to do the job, we havnt found anyone in florida that can leave their car for a week or so in order for everything to get done.

the MLS strut tower brace is VERY nice. not only is it a real strut tower brace (unlike the KMS) but it actually backs up the price with performance.



That is an MLS bar in the picture. That is the really good one, but they are $255.

Nitrous is a dumb way of getting power IMO. It is only good for drag racing...I would rather have my car fast all the time.

I had more of a performance difference when I installed my CAI, then when I installed exhaust. Once the entire exhaust system can be bought aftermarket, then there will be much better gains. It is known that G2 legends are starved for air, so once headers get put on the market...we are good.

If someone turbos their legend then they will not be dumb enough to leave stock gaskets. That is why the job is so much more difficult, because someone can already get custom bent tubing, and a turbo that will work, but stock gaskets, piston rings, etc will not take you very far in the world of forced induction
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Actually theres is a supercharger kit that was made by a guy by the name of TJ, I actually got a chance to talk to him at HIN philadelphia, it was very surprising seeing the battery relocated to the trunk and a rather large Vortech Centrifugal supercharger plugged right in front having the intake rerouted. He also had done a 6spd. conversion with his coupe, but there were problems within the process of boosting and shifting right to attain his desired power, but I don't know if its ready yet.
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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ok, for g2 legends there are 2 different motors. the regular one, which puts out like 200 hp or whatever and a type II motor, not a type II generation motor, a type II motor. a type II motor will say type II in red right on top if the intake manifold. these motors are rated at 230 hp, now the set up of these motors is slightly different then the engines pictured above. does anyone have any info on the typr II motors?
btw: the type II motors also came with an option for a six speed manual tranny, adding a turbo or supercharger shouldnt be a prob. with this tranny.
these motor/tranny setups were available from 1993-1995.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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I made a post on this before theres this place in Arizona that makes turbos for legends http://www.forcedairtech.com/legend.html, and if you do a search on google.com for the word "DV8ED" they have cold air intakes and aftermarket throttle bodys. And the NSX headers they do fit, but where the headers start going from 3-1 you gotta cut the heards from that point and het it custom from there, I just think that its just a waste of $1200. Greddy makes an exhast system also and venom makes an ECU that bolts on to the stock one that you have in your car.

I have to say I love my Legend (its a 92). the specs on the legend stock shows that it runs 16.3 in a quarter mile but with my intake alone I've ran a 15.9 @ 87mph. I know that may seem slow but thats hell as fast for a legend with an intake.
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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That turbo kit is for generation 1 legends unfortunately. The G2 legend is much more difficult because of the 90 degree layout of the engine. There is not very much room in the engine bay because they were trying to make the car as 'flat' as possible.

The Dv8ed cold air intake is one of the ones I was talking about. Greddy makes a cat-back system. That helps and all, but what good does 2.5" piping do when you start out with 2" piping. Dv8 (guy who owns the Dv8ed stuff) is in the process of making headers for G2 legends, but they are expensive.

I currently run a 15.5 @91 or something like that. I need to get a new transmission though. Sychronizers on 2nd and 3rd gear are going out.

By the way, the chip for G2 legends was originally made by Dinan (the BMW company) but the software rights were sold to the company Bayou. Bayou is the one that currently makes the Stage 1 and Stage 2 chips for G2 legends. They are VERY nice in face. So if you have the money. It would be highly recommended that you do the research to figure out how to get this.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Hey where can I geta hold of the guys that make the cold air intake for the gen two legend? I got the wepon r intake but just looking for the extenion to make it a true cold air intake.

I contacted the guys from http://www.forcedairtech.com and they said that they can do it for the gen 2 legends it starts at $4000 but your going to lose your car for about 4 weeks.
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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HAHHA 4 weeks?

I make cold air intakes dude, the price is $175 for the full tube with the filter and everything else needed. The $175 price comes annodized blue black green or red, or you can have it just plain silver (normal pipe color) For $30 you can have it powdercoated or ceramic coated, and another option is for a bypass valve which also costs $30.

The other people that make intakes for just the pipe and the filter charge $245. just to give you an idea of the other products.
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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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your user name is 92typeII.
you have a generation 2 legend, but does it have the type II motor?
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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depends what model
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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I got a 92 legend witha type II motor in it. Got the JDM motor for $800 with only 30,000k miles on it from a 95 legend.

I'm just looking for the bend to make my after market intake turn in to cold air I'm not looking for the full pipe.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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you could probaly just get some pipe and bend it?
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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there is a difference between the JDM motor, and the type 2. power wise, the JDM is between the Type 1 and the Type 2. You do not have a type 2 legend unfortunately...however, it IS better than a normal type 1.
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerJoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is a difference between the JDM motor, and the type 2. power wise, the JDM is between the Type 1 and the Type 2. You do not have a type 2 legend unfortunately...however, it IS better than a normal type 1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly, the JDM motor, i believe, is the same motor sold in europe. the car is a honda legend with a 225 hp motor.
for USDM, the type II is rated at 230 hp i think. but the set up of these is very different.
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Old Sep 12, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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all of the engines have the same bottom end, the top ends are different in the type 1 and type 2, (so the heads, intake manifold, and throttle body) and the type 2 have less restrictive exhaust manifolds. that is where the extra horsepower comes from. the ECU is also tuned better for the type 2's. that is why the redline, and rev limiter are higher..etc.

All "HONDA Legends" have the JDM engine...at least the JDM is the same as the EDM engine. The differences between the japanese legend, and the european legend are very small. like the headlights, and some interior features.
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