I just have seen a lot of talk about this header and wondered if anyone could update me with some info and pics of it. I am debating on goin all motor or turbo and this thing sounds nice...Thanks...

 

sms is the king from what ive heard, only drawback is the wait and the price. Id give danny tran a call over at danny tran race fab and see what he can do for you, itd be around the same price/power, just not that long of a wait.

510-750-5178
http://dtrfab.com/

 

Cool thanks, Anyone know anything else???

 

Yeah Dave's on the board. SMSP. He has pics, video's, dyno graphs and I said he can tell you best. PM him.

 

Cant go wrong w/ a SMS header....SMSP/Dave

I ordered my SMSP 1.8l header from Dave around Febuary, and had the pleasure of actually meeting him and picking up my header at the ITR expo in April at Beaver Run. It is WELLLLL worth the wait and the $$$, as im sure all of you have heard the saying "you get what you pay for" well Dave's products fit that to a T.

The craftsmenship on the header is second to none, and the power gains...wellll....

STOCK ITR, STOCK Intake, STOCK exhaust, STOCK header, again STOCK 1998 ITR dynoed in at 164whp.

with ONLY THE SMSP HEADER STOCK intake, STOCK ECU, NO cam gears, NO TUNING, STOCK CAMS......

dynoed in at 187

so that was a 23WHP gain from just Dave's header.

Now this isnt hear-say, it is on my own car, and there were many people the day we tested it out. Posted the graph on HT a while back, should still be around.

Also George Knighton managed 191whp with a SMSP header/exhaust and skunk2cam gears

 

wow, thats huge gains for just a header, espically on a stock motor....

 

I gained over 25whp from my SMS header, it's amazing piece, the craftsmanship is absolutely amazing

i can't say enough good things about Dave and his work

 

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I ordered my SMSP 1.8l header from Dave around Febuary, and had the pleasure of actually meeting him and picking up my header at the ITR expo in April at Beaver Run. It is WELLLLL worth the wait and the $$$, as im sure all of you have heard the saying "you get what you pay for" well Dave's products fit that to a T.

The craftsmenship on the header is second to none, and the power gains...wellll....

STOCK ITR, STOCK Intake, STOCK exhaust, STOCK header, again STOCK 1998 ITR dynoed in at 164whp.

with ONLY THE SMSP HEADER STOCK intake, STOCK ECU, NO cam gears, NO TUNING, STOCK CAMS......

dynoed in at 187

so that was a 23WHP gain from just Dave's header.

Now this isnt hear-say, it is on my own car, and there were many people the day we tested it out. Posted the graph on HT a while back, should still be around.

Also George Knighton managed 191whp with a SMSP header/exhaust and skunk2cam gears

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holy ****..that gain is badass anyone know exactly how long the wait is?

 

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wait is around 3-4 months

 

"Also George Knighton managed 191whp with a SMSP header/exhaust and skunk2cam gears "


You forgot to mention his cylinder head has been ported and polished also

 

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Here are few pics of my 1.8 header compared to a JDM 4-1

Great craftsmanship

 

heres pacman itrs header, i managed to snap a few shots b4 he put it on.

 

Hows the ground clearance on a SMSP? I assume theres a skid plate welded on. Id hate to bang up a thousand dollar header.

 

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lets just put it this way if u scrap this header ur oil pan is gone too

 

yeah from those pics it looks like very good clearance

Can't say the same about my DC JDM ..Just got my first bumps and scrathes in it after a dyno day

 

So what is the price. I am liking what I see, and it seems with little mods it would make good gains...Thanks

 

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did you have to get it drunk to get it in the sack?

lol

 

that header is

adaM

 

I had a chance to hold and drool over it at the expo, wow its really nice.

And Dave was right on point too

 

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That will be a $25 fee for holding and drooling over my header at the expo w/out my permission, i will gladely accept paypal. please add 3% j/k

Voodoo...yea we fed it some 151 thru the collector, slipped in bed no problem

 

whas the deal with the different length headers??? pacman ur headers looks extra long compared to big teggie's header

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**** I was waiting to see a pic of someone snuggled up with the header. I know I would slip the tounge out on that sexy beast!

 

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I noticed that too...and where is the bung for the O2 on them?

-Chris

 

Here's mine....

 

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it comes in peices? and u hafta have it welded? looks like its AC compatible