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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:16 AM
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Default TODA flywheel weight, false advertising....

i bought a TODA flywheel for my itr engined eg. AKH states that the TODA flywheel is 3.9lbs, which is 8.58 lbs. i weighed mine and it was 9 lbs. i know, i am nitpicking, but i bought the TODA flywheel because it was advertised as lighter than the JUN flywheel by almost half a pound. i haven't had the chance to weigh the JUN flywheel, but i will soon. why would they lie? oh, just in case you are wondering, i have load cell scales, and i am a certified ny state weighmaster, just so you don't think i did the bathroom scale thing. anyone else have any comments?
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:26 AM
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Interesting, I assume the top pictures is a stock ITR flywheel? I thought they were about 18pds?

BTW: you have some ugly toes! J/K

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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:26 AM
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Nice toe structure.

I dont know what to say, false advetising on the US distributors part probably.
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:43 AM
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Damn, that's a beautiful site. The flywheel, not your toes

Please keep us posted as I too am interested in how the Toda flywheel "feels"
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:50 AM
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why do you think i bought the TOEda flywheel? oh, and it was rainy the day i took the pics, and i had some mud on my foot...jeesh


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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:51 AM
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I would have to question your "bathroom" scale's accuracy........... 1/2lb delta...????
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 05:52 AM
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Hmm, do I smell a free flywheel!?! You should definitely take up the issue with TODA. You know they ain't got a chance for false advertisement. There is a stiff penalty for false advertisement in the U.S. Check it out at your local level.
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 06:03 AM
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yup. between its accuracy.....the flywheel not being centered on an inaccurate scale and what might appear to be the scale on carpet.....this has got to be a silly *** test. if you want to get at least a tick more accurate put the scale on a hard flat surface like a lenolium floor or something........try getting your body weight with someone standing next to you with the flywheel. stand on the scale record your number...and DON'T MOVE. have someone hand you the flywheel and record that number...do your subtraction. gotta be better then what you just did
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 06:24 AM
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lip, i weighed it on concrete too, but the carpet made for a better picture. same weight. and as i said earlier, my scales are state certified. if they were not right, i would not be able to use them. i buy various types of metal for recycling purposes.
but, i guess my $250,000 worth of scales must not be reliable......


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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:19 AM
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i wonder if toda was weighing them on a bathroom scale . . .
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:21 AM
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that sure is a purdy 250,000 dollar glass metal weighing scale. lol

jk

point is...know anyone not happy with thier toda flywheel?
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:26 AM
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fidanza..or new CM ... i saved a lot and it weighs less.
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:29 AM
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what are the tolerances of the scale in the picture? as for getting anything out of AKH (Toda USA), LOL...good luck. I will call Alan for you Rodney, and see what I get. Surely weights will differ due to manufacturing, but should not by that much. I will repost what I find.
Jason- Pretty soon, you will have to change your name, too..
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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To clarify, he says it's NOT a bathroom scale. Read carefully! interesting find. My Volks, which i have seen LISTED (on various wheel weight sites) at 11.2 lbs. were actually 12.2 lbs, but that could be due to different offset from origional wheel tested, etc, and i wasn't about to bitch. But you might want to call them up and see what they have to say for themselved.
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:37 AM
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Yep, I know. I'll have to fit the word "broke" in my name/sig somewhere...

Are you ready...30 days and counting!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:59 AM
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Rodney, you must really like the toda stuff!

How's it going?

I was up your way this past sun-tues, but I was working with my ceo, so no time to say hi.

drop me an email or im sometime and let me know how the eg is.

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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 07:59 AM
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aleph, not to nitpick, but if you read carefully, you would've noticed that i said toda, not rodney.

sheesh . . . no need to argue about little details like this! we clearly have too much time on our hands . . .
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 08:28 AM
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I got it guy's When Toda and Volk manufactured the parts, they manipulated the earths gravitational pull therefore making the parts lighter.

Uh weight, I have been watching the Sci fi channel too much. SORRY
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 08:43 AM
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Uh weight, I have been watching the Sci fi channel too much. SORRY
That is a horrible pun.
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 09:26 AM
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no, i never said i was unhappy with the flywheel,or toda at all (i have a spec b top end) it's just that i weigh things for living and i like to know the differences between the new parts that i buy and the old ones that i removed. the scale in the picture is not worth $250,000, but is one of the many scales that my company has to weigh material for purchase. that one is the one we use to weigh mercury. i do not expect anything from AHK or TODA, just am curious that the jun flywheel weight is listed as 4.1kg and the TODA flywheel weight is listed at 3.9kg, but weighs 9lbs. maybe they listed it lower just be be "lighter" than the JUN? got me, i will try to find a new JUN flywheel and weigh it. now i know what import review felt like..... black R, how are you? how did the wheels work out? you get any pics of them?
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 09:36 AM
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I'm serious...i'm just messing around in my responses. either way i'm happy with mine and i'm sure you will be to if you did purchase one
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 09:38 AM
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Rodney,

Did you get the ARC box dimensions I e-mailed? Hope it'll fit, that sucka is huge!
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 09:45 AM
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UPDATE. According to Alan at AKH, Toda just recently changed the weight of the flywheels to 4.1kg. He said he just received a memo on this, although the memo does not state the reason for the change. Of course, as a dealer, my first thought was "hey, how about letting us know these things..." He assured me the correspondence was fresh. Now, to find out why the change. Its not related to material or manufacturing. Any ideas anyone?
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:00 AM
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kengs, yes i got them. you are right it is huge! but we'll see, hopefully i can squeeze it in there. and, of course i will weigh it......
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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Did your flywheel box have any info in it? I bought a TODA flywheel back in March and it came with a sticker and an info sheet in Japanese. The only thing I could make out (I can't read Japanese) was 3.9kg. So maybe the newer ones are heavier and the old ones were 3.9kg.
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