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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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I plan on getting sir headlamps and sir fenders for crx with ww rs body kit. My question is would the sir headlamps and sir fenders be a direct bolt-on to my crx?? I dont wanna spend money on the full sir conversion I just want the sir headlamps and fenders. Also, does anyone know where I can get a CF sir hood to fit the sir headlights if I decide on doing the sir headlight and fender conversion?? If you guys could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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got a pic of this 91 crx? i'm curious as to what you mean by sir fenders and such?


Modified by KID at 12:09 AM 8/30/2003
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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I just did what you are talking about. I got the SIR headlights and a CF SIR hood from VIS. they doo bolt up but you have to do a little cutting of the radiator support to get the hood latch to line up with the SIR hood, or get the JDM radiator support.

Now to the WW RS kit... You will have to cut away part of the bumper for the headlights to fit (they are maybe 2" longer than the USDM ones). The two problems that I encountered were I had a gap under the headlight. Bondo does not stick to the urathane (sp?) so I used some fiberglass well see how it holds up. There is also a gap between the bumper and the hood in between the headlights. The SIR bumper comes up higher in the middle.

I'm picking it up tomorrow from the paint shop I'll try to post some pics.

If I had to do it all over again I don't think I would have got the WW kit. The bodyshop told me that the urathane (sp?) body kits suck if you want to do any molding. I wish I would have got a fiberglass kit (lighter & cheaper ) or get a real Mugen Pro2 bumper but I'll make due with what I have.


Hope this helps and good luck!
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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so do you think its a bad idea to do that?? is it better off if i go and buy the complete sir coversion so i wont have to do any cutting on the radiator?? btw, post up some your pics..so i can actually see what your talking about..thanks..
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Old Aug 27, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 05:15 AM
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SiR fenders will bolt right up to your car.. no problem.

SiR headlights are wider than stock, and you will need to modify the hood and bumper cover to get them to fit. i personally wouldn't recommend that. if you want a set of JDM headlights, get a set of ZC headlights. same size as USDM and are plastic and have the same etching pattern as the SiR. ebay has them occasionally.. just look for close up of the pics and make sure it says stanley on them.

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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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i was wondering if someone could inform me as to what all this sir fender and such is? my last post where i asked i just noticed was deislexic as hell...so i aploigize.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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there is nothing different between the U.S. and the SiR fenders. Except that the SiR's have sidemarker lights.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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so the u.s fenders and sir fenders are the same?? would the sir fenders fit the usdm headlamps and corners??
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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I plan on doing the same thing as you skellator but Im going to use the jdm 4door headlights. I was planning on using the ww bumper but now im confused . why is there going to be a gap ? if the corners fit the fender doesn't that mean they the same width ? I know I have to cut the bumper but I wasnt aware of the gap .
Anybody got pix of this ?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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skellator, yes it will be fine. the fenders will handle either JDM or USDM Corner lights. the headlights and the fenders do not matter, cause they are not really related to eachother. the hood and bumper cover matter for the headlights.

BoostedEF: the gap is from the headlights, not teh corners. the corners are the same shape, so no gap from the corner to the fender. the problem is the headlights. SiR headlights are wider than USDM headlights, which means the bumper cover and hood need to have a larger cutout to compensate for the new size.

here is a pic of my front end. its a mix and match of US and JDM parts. i have EF8 front bumper cover, hood, and SiR headlights.Im using my US fenders and corners


oh and if you get any of you get an SiR hood, real or cf, the JDM rad support does NOT help the hood latch up right. its a difference in the US and JDM cars.. here is what i did:

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/for...13089

hope this all helps!
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:00 AM
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so the rad. suport deosnt do anything? I could have sworn my hood wouldnt close with out it....hmmmmm.....and i do have ALL JDM front end peices......had i only read that and known that before and listened to you and not all my friends, the guy i bought the **** from and the fact that it wouldnt latch up.....my opinion is to just spend the $500 on the front end......its worth it, the bumper lights by them selves are a worthy cause to go all out. if you dont have the cash now, try this SAVE!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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nope.. sorry man. i had a US rad support and a JDM rad support, compared them, and they are the same shape. the only difference is a hole in the JDM for where the intake was.

the cars are completley different. the whole front sturcture is out further on a JDM car, than a USDM (well, at least comparing an SiR to an Si).

but i agree carrcarr, the front end is worth the money, i was mainly looking for the front bumper, then after research i realized, i need the headlights to go with it, and the hood to match.. so i just bought a complete front end and just didnt use the fenders and corners. having the extra parts helped to learn all this, so it wasnt a waste to me..

but yea, if any of you out there end up getting a EF8 front end, and if you find out your fenders are beyond repair, use your USDM ones and just get holes cut for the sidemarkers.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
Ok, everyone keeps coming up with all of these crazy mods!
(Except for Schwanginpt who got it right on the last try)

First off:
1) The USDM rad support and JDM support ARE THE SAME!!!
2) Everything does bolt up (using all JDM SiR parts ie hood
bumper and headlights) except...

3) In order for the SiR hood to latch you must SLOT the hood
latch mount on the hood it's self, NOT THE RAD SUPPORT.

4) There is no welding or rigging or washers needed to make the swap.

I have plenty of pics if you still need help.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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thats a good looking front end up there
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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1QWKCRX: what was i wrong about before my last post?? i want to make sure i've been telling people the right things. was it the headlights? the fenders? i dont want to come off like a smart ***, cause thats not the case, i would really like to know, cause i want to have my info correct. there are different ways to do the hood latch thing. I've seen people reweld the rad support, ive seen use washers to push the rad support forward, and ive seen some that move the latch on the hood. I took a combo of a couple of them. cause i wanted the modifcation to be very subtle, so you couldn't tell i had to make it work. so seriously, if im wrong about something i said above, please let me know, im always up for learning something new about my car and how to install

taffeta_EK9: thanks for the comment. you like it with the USDM corners and fenders? i wanted to do something slightly different than most people. i plan on getting the JDM tails (which have the amber wrap around to the sides). so i thought it would be nice to have amber in the front and the rear, for a nice balance. i don't think the sidemarkers are necessary then, since i was using the US corners. but glad you like it
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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the jdm and usdm rad suports are different. the jdm one is further forward so the longer hood latches, i am positive.........
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMBOLONI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the jdm and usdm rad suports are different. the jdm one is further forward so the longer hood latches, i am positive.........</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are talking about the entire core support, I agree. If you just are talking about the center section that the other guys are speaking about, I disagree.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1QWKCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

First off:
1) The USDM rad support and JDM support ARE THE SAME!!!
2) Everything does bolt up (using all JDM SiR parts ie hood
bumper and headlights) except...

3) In order for the SiR hood to latch you must SLOT the hood
latch mount on the hood it's self, NOT THE RAD SUPPORT.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with all this. The differences in the front are from the core support that is welded on. So it relocates the center section forward. I have used the Japanese center with my US front end while I was fitting my front end. They bolt up the same and latch the same.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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yes.. i'll agree with that. if you have a JDM core support, then yes, the latch should work no problem. i only got the radiator support center section, which required modificiation.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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TrueNorthStar = Did you get your car back ? Got the pix ?
Has any body tried putting jdm bumper lens on a ww bumper ?
Any body know what hood to use if Im using JDM 1piece headlights ?
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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why don't you just get the sir bumper! cheeper and looks tight....
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Cause I got the ww kit for free . Someone paid for it at my friends shop and never picked it up so after 5 months I took it.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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I used the USDM rad supports, USDM latch, and JDM centre latch support and everything worked out perfect.

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