Anyone that want's a swap but can't afford a b16 or b18 right now, you should buy my F23. More power than Si's and Ls's by far. 150hp/155tq! SOHC Vtec. Out of my 98 CL. Low 55K miles. Come drive it if your in So Cal before I pull it. This thing is perfect, but I'm getting a JDM H22 soon, so I will sell this at any reasonable offer.

 

i forgot to mention it comes with CAI and DC 4-2-1 ceramic header. And new plugs & wires.

 

How much?

 

41 posts and you still have yet to find the classified forum?

and as far as the "perfect" swap. I can't express in words how hard I laughed.

 

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LOL

 

looking to get around $600 for motor, ECU, and 5 spd tranny. Trust me this is the best way to buy an engine. I wish there were better FWD honda mottors than H22's so I could buy one off someone thats upgrading. I just hate the idea that I have to trust them that my 93-96 H22 will only have 35K on it and run perfect.

 

dude I know where the classifieds are, I just figured I'd post it here and the crx section since thats whod be interested.

And an F23 in a crx/hatch would completly rape a b16 for your information!

 

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And an F23 in a crx/hatch would completly rape a b16 for your information!</TD></TR></TABLE>

First theres rules against posting for sale stuff anywhere but the classifieds, read em.

Second, the B16 is a piece of crap motor, no **** it would BEAT it, Rape it? nope

If its such a PERFECT swap, why are you going to an H22 if your F is so perfect?

 

I'm saying it would be perfect for someone with a hatch who can't afford an H22 or type R motor. It has power, but my CL weighs 3000lbs so 220 in that JDM motor sounds pretty good to me. My F23 actually has just as much torqu tho.

I beat bolt on Si's and Ls's in it, so if it was in a car that weighed almost 1000lbs less, I'm positive it would be much quicker than either of those motors in the same car.

Dude, how are you about to even say that this isn't a great deal?? If I had the money, I'd buy a 90 crx and put the F23 in that when I get my H22.

thanks, for the warning about the rules tho, i do appreciate that

 

umm...yea. Thats what i want to do. Buy a bolt in kit to install a crappy f-series into my hatch and then have to deal with the also crappy f-series/h-series trannys. Not to mention that engine weights a ton. That engine is made for a truck..good torque but doesnt rev for sh*t.

Id take a b16a over that anyday of the week. My $0.02 before this thread is locked.

liam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">umm...yea. Thats what i want to do. Buy a bolt in kit to install a crappy f-series into my hatch and then have to deal with the also crappy f-series/h-series trannys. Not to mention that engine weights a ton. That engine is made for a truck..good torque but doesnt rev for sh*t.

Id take a b16a over that anyday of the week. My $0.02 before this thread is locked.

liam</TD></TR></TABLE>

take it easy on him... hes just tryin to make an honest buck

 

If you look at how cheap he's sellin it...it would be a good buy for someone that can't afford the higher performing engines. I mean $600 for a farely complete swap versus $2200+...this would be good for someone who just wants a cheap upgrade...Like a DX or any other powerless civic/crx. All the person would need to do is get a HASport Mount kit for 500, B-Series axles for like 100, and shiftlinkage for I think 50. Plus this guy is throwing in Header and CAI. And later if you want to buy an H22...you already have the kit. Not a bad idea...never thought of it myself.

 

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take it easy on him... hes just tryin to make an honest buck </TD></TR></TABLE>

Making an honest buck is one thing . But saying its a great swap when it really isnt is another .

liam

 

yeah. f23 is alrite.. they pull hard. but its just not worth the trouble

 

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And an F23 in a crx/hatch would completly rape a b16 for your information!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Look man you're leaving out a lot of key details in your F23 swap info.

First of all you'll need a mount kit, custom axles, and you'll have to cut the shifter tunnel area on the Civic ( there are no kits for the 1988-1991 Civic nor CR-X ) just to get started on that F23 swap.

Secondly the F23 is not a sports engine. Honda did not design it with high revs nor continuous trips to it's redline - it is a SHITTY engine to do hard driving with.

I work at an independant repair shop that only works on Acuras and Hondas and have been there for nearly 3 years and the Accord/CL 4 cylinder engines are awesome commuter car engines, but they are by no means designed for hard driving.

Plus they are leak proned after 80K miles or so, and if someone doesn't get the balance shaft seal retainer update at 90K they are a ticking timebomb for a massive oil leak and sudden engine failure.

Yes the world's fastest (not quickest, that's Erick Aguilar's 9.9 Civic) all motor Honda was (still might be) a SOHC F motor in Bisi's CR-X, but it is way far from stock and streetable.

Also if we are comparing stock to stock I don't think the F23 would beat a B16A easily or at all.

A properly running B16A with a nice S1 or J1 tranny will IMO beat an F23.

The B16A has much better gearing, a higher strung powerband and a higher redline all of which adds up to an overall quicker set-up 1/4 mile wise.

Now I do think that an F23 could beat a B16A in 5th gear at 45mph flooring it going uphill - yes - that is if you can get the F23 running right in a Civic.

Also tell us what ECU will we run in our cars if we decide to buy your engine? See you don't have the proper ECU to run that engine in a 1992-1995 Civic, and you really don't have the right one for a 1988-1991 Civic or CR-X and as I mentioned before there are no mount kits for those for the F and H series engines yet.

Also you'll need an extra set of cable shift linkages too since you'll be wanting to keep yours. The Civic guy buying your commuter engine will also need shift linkage.

I'd love to see the looks on your faces (you and the buyer) when you tear into his car not knowing **** about the swap. You make it sound so easy by saying "drive out to my house and I'll pull your engine..." yeah yeah it's so easy, right?



Finally this is NOT the ******* classifieds section. I have never allowed such posts in this forum, so why are you any different my friend? Hell the manner in which you're selling your **** is also very uneducated and seemingly shady since you left out a shitload of key details for the swap. Some new person could read what you typed and actually think that the F23 swap is both easy and a B series killer, which in fact you could not be more wrong.

I will allow this topic to stay though, as punishment that is.

What do I mean?

Well after you've made yourself look this dumb I'd like to see what others think of you trying to pawn off **** on the rest of us with tons of misonfo as your selling point.

 

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

sorry couldn't resist

 

Damn, thats gotta sting.

 

F-series POO

 

I think that was the best case of being OWNED that I've seen in a while props to B18C5-EH2 for setting this tool straight.

 

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Well I've always said that if you're going to flame someone educate them at the same time.

Yes I'm being harsh, but when someone busts in posting bullshit classifieds stuff in this forum and titles it "Perfect Swap for your Civic!" I will be critical.

then to find out it's a F23 engine - classic!

Yeah I want to go through all of the extra work of an H22A swap only to have a low revving Accord engine!

 

your lucky your in Ga ******!

First of all, I'm not pulling the engine out myself. I'm having it done at prospeed in Aneheim. If there is no mount kit for civics with h22 swaps then I am wrong, but if there is, those mounts will fit. I am using my stock mounts and i'm not sure about the axels. I'm no expert at all, but neither are you, your just trying to be one. As for being owned, no more like he just wrote a bunch of BS hoping I'd go away. I just figured I'd offer some people a great deal. And if I can beat Si's with the same mods as me, I'm sure a lighter car would destroy one.

I never said it is some high reveving sports engine, so STFU. It redlines at 6,300 so what. High redlines don't mean ****! They are just harder to launch, and harder on your clutch when you do drop it at 6k. I've never heard of nyone having problems with their f series motor, and i haven't either, but nice try. If your not interested in this motor, then don't post here, because your stupid coments are pointless. The F23 series has 10 less HP than a b16, and about 40 more TQ! Also single cams are much quicker off the line, although they are a bit harder to make huge power gains with. I can't believe your dissing this motor after you posted that it was in the world fastest crx had one in it.

As for the ecu not working right in a civic, why? Whoever drops the motor in for the buyer should be able to convert the ecu over.

The b16 is a great motor too, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that this will be faster, and is less money.

 

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um... bisi's crx has carbs and more compression than u could ever run on the street.

so im sure he has about the same amount of money put into his race car as ericks racing. maybe even more. so take your pick, B-series or F-series. there are more aftermarket support for a B-series so thats my choice

 

thats true, there is more parts for the b-seriers.
I'm not saying the f-series is better.
Just that you can't beat this price, and it will be faster stock vs stock in an equally weighted car.

1. F23-that you could drive first to see how perfect it runs, then only pay $600. you know how many miles are on it to.

or

2. b16 from Japan, that you have no clue about how it runs, or the miles. You just have to believe them. $1500 or more!

now choose!

 

awe ****! just close this thread! Everyone just wants to bitch about which motor is better!

I won't have a problem selling this anyway.

 

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Smart.......can't wait for this one.