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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wicked_CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 90 CRX DX and I bought the Tein HAs, When I got to the rear coilovers I realized they weren't going to work with my current contol arms. I was told by Tein that these were made for the JDM CRX and that I would only need to get a pair of 88 CRX control arms and I would be fine. Is it really that simple? The Problem is that the bottom of the Coilover doesn't come to a fork (Like my normal struts), it comes to a female, bushing thing with a hole in it. Any input would be greatly appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That sounds about right. The 88 CRX (not sure if it has to be Si or not) rear control arms had a 'passive rear-stearing' feature. 89+ models did away with this only in the US, while every other country kept it. So, now that I've told you something you already know, it would make sense that you have to swap out the rear control arms out of an '88 chassis. Unfortunately I don't know the actual swap procedure, but I'm sure it shouldn't be too dificult. The best thing you can do is check classified boards, and also your local junkard(s). You'll need to see the arms in person, and take note of the differences to figure out the install.

Good Luck!

 

I'm heading to the dismantler sometime this week to check it out, thanks for responding.

 

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That sounds about right. The 88 CRX (not sure if it has to be Si or not) rear control arms had a 'passive rear-stearing' feature. 89+ models did away with this only in the US, while every other country kept it. So, now that I've told you something you already know, it would make sense that you have to swap out the rear control arms out of an '88 chassis. Unfortunately I don't know the actual swap procedure, but I'm sure it shouldn't be too dificult. The best thing you can do is check classified boards, and also your local junkard(s). You'll need to see the arms in person, and take note of the differences to figure out the install.

Good Luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah as far as I know the LCA swap is straight forward you just have to use the 88 style shocks, that you allready have. I was just wondering also if anyone is using 88 style LCAs with the ST sway bar kit? and if there are any fitment issues? From the look of that LCA I don't see it hapening.

 

Yes, you need the 88 LCAs, I am getting rid of mine but I'm keeping them just in case I ever go with TEINs. I am switching to the 89-91 style LCAs cause the struts are so much cheaper.

 

Ive been there....done that. I ordered some TEINS for my 90 REX and come to realize the rear ones are for the ones with the Type R style rear suspension. At that time, I was notified that TEIN has a new part # out for the U.S. CRX's.

Im not sure if they have a HA application, but Im running the SS set-up on my 90 REX right now. Nice suspension, too bad there were no provisions to bolt up the brake lines

I know you have already bought the HA's so buying the SS wouldnt be an option. If you are into road course racing or autocrossing, you want to convert to the U.S. 88 style rear suspension anyways because it allows the CRX to "rotate" better during cornering.

All CRX's are "twitchy" in general, its just something you have to get used to. I get nervous when I let others drive my REX and warn them to keep both hands on the steering wheel and DONT RELAX!!! Going high speed in a REX with someone not used to driving a CRX can be SCARY!!

 

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If you are into road course racing or autocrossing, you want to convert to the U.S. 88 style rear suspension anyways because it allows the CRX to "rotate" better during cornering.
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I've never heard of that. How is it possible? The arm still does the same movement. It actually looks like it is heavier which more unsprung mass would result in less responsive suspension. I dunno it just doesn't make sense to me. If it is true I want to know if my ST sway bar will work with the 88 style LCA.

 

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I've never heard of that. How is it possible? The arm still does the same movement. It actually looks like it is heavier which more unsprung mass would result in less responsive suspension. I dunno it just doesn't make sense to me. If it is true I want to know if my ST sway bar will work with the 88 style LCA.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it didnt make a difference, than why would Honda change it for the U.S. market for 89-91 when the American public thought the vehicle was too "twitchy"?

The Integra Type R is deemed as one of the best handling front wheel drive cars. Guess what style rear control arm set up it uses?

The CRX with its short wheel base and that style rear suspension was just too much too handle I guess. This is coming from a country where we think the 106 hp SOHC D16a6 non-Vtec is more than enough power for that little car.

I hate it when I hear someone say the Japanese send us the crappy set-ups and weak motors. Its not their fault.......its our damn U.S. regulations preventing it. Most companies usually have to make a "special" model for the U.S. Market.

Everyone else in the world usually gets what is offered in Japan.

 

I agree with you obviously it is different and was changed for a reason. From an engineering standpoint I honestly don't see how changing the way the shock bolts up will make the car "rotate better". If it is true I am all about getting a set for my hatchback. Anybody know if the 88 LCA will work with the ST sway bar? I'll get a set if they will.

 

The 88 lca is made of stamped steel and flexes more than the 89-91 lca's. That's the main difference. the 89-91 lca's are solid steel pieces.

 

The 88 LCA is lighter in weight than the 89-91 LCA and it gets rid of some of the negative camber. As well, the bushing is now in the shock itself so you don't get as much deflection.

Getting rid of camber in the rear is probably one of the best benefits of the 88 LCAs.

 

Comparing the two the shock is mounted further outboard on the 88/ITR LCAs. I'll measure the difference sometime. I haven't installed my ST rear anti-sway and Konis yet on my Civic to see what the difference in mounting is all about for the ST. I have seen an '88 rear mounting kit for ST on Summitracing. I think it was about $30. Energy Suspension is supposedly working on an add-on or going to include the 88 LCA bushings in their master kit in the future. If you have a 1989-91 kit already you can call or email them and they will mail them to you for your '88 LCAs.
Peace,
Caleb

 

Thanks again guys for the info, I really appreciate it!

 

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I got the 88 control arms on my car that i am willing to trade with you. I have a 88 civic hb...I want to change mine to an 89-91 control arm...i'm from Sacramento, CA...Where u from?

 

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I got the 88 control arms on my car that i am willing to trade with you. I have a 88 civic hb...I want to change mine to an 89-91 control arm...i'm from Sacramento, CA...Where u from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just PM'd you!

Yeah bro. I'm interested in a straight trade, maybe next week?! PM or e-mail me

 

You can use the 88 lca's or the integra type r lcas. I could not find the lcas from an 88 even at honda. Checked the part number and it was identical in between 88-91, So i had to order some type r lcas. Once my tein was on i also threw on the suspension techniques front sway and then eventually got the rear st sway bar on as well. It went on without a problem.