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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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i bought a 96 prelude S 5 speed for $3500 - thats why i didnt care it wasent a vtec . but i want to put a h22 in it. i found them for $1200-2000 w/ECU ... me and a friend who has swaped some engine before are gona attemped it with a haynes (or some kind)of manual and some booze maybenot. im trying to figure out why the manuals ive found seem to end at 95, like there for 89-95 preludes or some wierd sht and i guess the library had one for 96-00 preludes, wich i thought was wierd cause 96 is the same body as all 92-95 preludes.

i just want to know if theres a certain h22 that fits right into my 96 prelude S with 2.2 non-vtec AND if my trannsmission will be ok with the vtec and if the ECU's will need any re-wiring. and i guess the newest preludes (97-00 style) have a 220hp h22 and the one in 92-95/96? were about 200hp basicly i dont know S H I T help
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Buy the entire setup....Gauge Cluster, Lines, Engine (long Block), ECU, Wire Harness, pretty much an entire front clip.
You will need alot of things you wouldnt think of or would never think of if you were to try it yourself....yeah you can save some money, but it sounds like your not to mechanically enclined...just like I cant spell...so save yourself the worries, buy a front clip and have a garage take care of it for you so it can be done right.
Catz

If not go cheap and buy a H23 and go boost!
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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96 started obd2, best bet for performance is to get 93-95 h22 and obd2-1 conversion.

easiest install is 96 h22

yes the f22 tranny will work, but the gears suck, it will slow the **** out of you.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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Don't use the f22 tranny, my friend did the same swap that you are talking about and the tranny hold him back sooo much. I beat him with my H23 4th gen and my 5th gen.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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97-00 Preludes DOES NOT have 220 HP...The sh models have 200 and the BASE is 195
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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you can PUT a F series TRANNY on a H22 ? nah i dont think so...dont quote me tho...i guess i am wrong ....damn i never knew that ..thats crazy
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiB16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">97-00 Preludes DOES NOT have 220 HP...The sh models have 200 and the BASE is 195</TD></TR></TABLE>

the autos have 195. The SH and base both have 200
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiB16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can PUT a F series TRANNY on a H22 ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

w/o modifying anything?
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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how is that cheaper ? i thought good turbos were like $3000 so that and i'd need a h23 - i've been wanting turbo but i dont have a bunch of money
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NCSTIdriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the autos have 195. The SH and base both have 200</TD></TR></TABLE>

the base has 190 and the sh has 195
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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...the only prelude to ever have 220 was the type<FONT COLOR="red">S</FONT>
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiB16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can PUT a F series TRANNY on a H22 ? nah i dont think so...dont quote me tho...i guess i am wrong ....damn i never knew that ..thats crazy</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, you can. Most all tranny parts are F and H series.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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anyone know where to get h22 & transmission cheap? i would need the ECU too i guess and some other crap . i think i have the slowest prelude - today my AEM cold air intake was delivered to my front door and stolen within 30min.
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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i think the jdm h22 97-? have 220hp ya i guess type S

heres what i was lookin at to buy maybe http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30015
but i like the idea of turbo.... it seems really expensive



Modified by summerDumpster at 6:54 AM 8/23/2003
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 02:55 AM
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hmotorsonline.com has good full swap kits cheap andfsat service. They are highly recomended from alot of people
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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i think it's like this

97-99 base or sh 195
00-02 base or sh 200

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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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yeah your right man, but i think its 1997-1998 195 ponies, and 1999 and up have 200.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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hey 92 legend, i am selling my 1998 pearl white prelude, so i am parting a bunch of stuff off of it. Email me at faridnekouee@hotmail.com, and ill give you more details and pics. Thanx
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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What parts are you selling I might be interested
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by farid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah your right man, but i think its 1997-1998 195 ponies, and 1999 and up have 200.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn I got ripped off ANyone know where the extra 5 hp came from?
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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so does anyone know what manuals they make/where to get for the 96 prelude? like a haynes or chilton or somthing - most auto parts stores i went to didnt even have a empty spot for one..
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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I suggest that you spend some extra money and get yourself the Helms Manual. It has alot more info then the others besides the other manuals don't explain things very clear and not so much of helpful diagrams. The helms is a good resource. Try http://www.helminc.com

As for the prelude and hp ratings. 97-98 Both SH & Base (Manual has 195hp) Automatic base has 190hp. 99-01 SH & Base (Manual have 200hp) Automatic base has 195hp. The extra 5 ponies were thought to come from the header, but that isn't true, people think its Honda's advertising strategy.

For those who want to know which Prelude has the 220PS(not hp) which is about 217hp. The JDM Prelude Type S (ATTS equiped) or the SIR S-SPEC(LSD equiped.)

Hope that helps and answers some questions.
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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thanks - never heard of helms till now
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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by farid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah your right man, but i think its 1997-1998 195 ponies, and 1999 and up have 200.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is correct.

I can prove the F series trannys bolt on, I've done it to a Freinds 96 Prelude S, we put the JDM H22 in with his stock pos f22 tranny. Falls outa VTEC durings shifts, sux bad.
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