The Vortec SC for the C1 puts out 278hp and 192lbs/tq @ 8-9psi.

A turbo set up.....well....yea....you know what you can do.........


I am leaning towards getting the vortec sc, however, before I do, can someone with experience give me some input on whether the VSC is worth it? I just want something reliable with a good power gain for my daily driver.

Thanks in advance and please newbeezz...don't post to tell me to just 'slap' a turbo and boost it........thats a failure waiting to happen....

 

you need to do a SEARCH I did it and found 446 results.

 

If you have the means to properly prep your motor for turbo then I'd go with that.

If you just want a extra bang on your daily driver then go with the SC.

 

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well i am getting a supercharger for my 99ls eventually. i believe i will be choosing the vortec aftercooled supercharger. i can only hope that i will have as much horsepower as it says on the website. also that is horsepower at the crank not the wheels.

 

If you want a Vortech and like its powerband, you want a turbo kit. Turbos are no more unreliable than JRSC's, Vortechs, nitrous, whatever...its all relative. Dont believe the hype.

Vortechs can make good power, but its an uphill battle. Its a peaky powerband that is similar to a turbo, with more lag and less efficiency. If you want that high peak power, get a turbo kit.

JRSCs are more suited for power throughout the entire range. Peak power will be less, but low-mid will be significantly different as there is no spool time, boost is instant and throttle dependent. All of the above setups have the potential to make tons of power, it just depends where you want that power and how much effort you want to put forth to make that power.

 

vortec... i think that as a supercharger, abeit a centrifugal one, its not only street legal (always a concern when your living in CA but your not) boost hits lower, at 2500 rpm i believe and you dont have to worry about as much maintainance as a turbo
and the horse power gains are just about the same as is the price.......... so vortec

 

With an LS you are welllll better off going turbo.

 

Maintenance concerns with a turbo? Like what? Changing the oil?

Lag is much more present with a Vortech unit...the power is much peakier. A properly sized turbo will give you almost instant boost, minimal lag, and more peak power. There is a reason people say "just go turbo."

 

SleeperCiv - I typed in vortec supercharger etc....only found one post...What the hell you talking about?? I always do a search before I post......

NewGSRdriver - Thanks bro for you input........hhmm damn its hard haha.....turbo..sc..turbo..sc...turbo...sc...lol.. .aahhhh!!!

Beaterman - Let me know how that goes when you get it done....later.

 

what kind of car do you have? maybe you said it but i didnt see.

 

2001 GSR - 12k miles....

 

ive heard reliability issues with vortech, why not jrsc, with turbo i think you have prep the engine a little bit.

 

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trying to up your post count.....

 

You have to "prep" your engine the same way for any boost. People have a misconception that turbos are "less reliable" for some reason, I dont understand why. I think everyone is under that impression when they first get involved with this stuff, then as they learn and experience things, they see its just another bogus story spread around.

Prepping would consist of preparing your motor to run 50%+ more power. Coolant flush, oil change, basic tuneup if necessary, compression test, fuel filter, etc. Nothing special, just simple maintenance you should do to ensure your running at optimal efficiency.

I wouldnt say theres more reliability problems with any of the above. They each have their advantages and disadvantages, but in terms of reliability they are probably all on par, depending on the engine management you are running and your fuel system, which is what makes or breaks the setup.

If you want peak power and to be as fast as possible in a straight line, get a turbo kit. If you want a smooth powerband, instant boost and the luxury of never downshifting again, get a JRSC. Vortechs just dont fit in anywhere IMO.

 

NewGSRDriver -....hhmm interesting point you make there......now as far as a turbo set up...I'm not scared of it, it's just that I haven't personally seen anyone here but one person, that did it right. Building the bottom, Comp. test, tuning....etc....Everyone else...seriously....blew up their motors..even with low boost....I have blocks with holes in it to prove it haha .....

I have driven both turbo and supercharged cars and to be honest, they both have their pros and cons. I guess it just comes down to what kind of power i want more.......im a top end kinda guy.... the majority would say then go turbo........

I guess I'm going to drive some more cars....I think that is the best way....because you can see for yourself...

 

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vortechs are wanna-be turbos. theyre like all of the cheap parts we see for our cars on ebay. they have both the bad qualities of turbos and superchargers. they have turbo lag and parasitic loss of power. jrsc or turbo are your choices. if its for daily driving, id go with the jrsc.

 

Vortech absolutly, positively is the worst S/C for a GS-R, or any small displacement motor. All the power is up top. The only reason they've sold is because of the peak numbers they make. JRSC blowers at less psi have posted faster acceleration times. I've heard of people with Si's running the vortech and only getting mid 14's with good launches. JRSC is the easy way to go. If you want more power, go turbo, but its gonna cost more to make it run reliable.

-Andrew

as far as what jstyle said, its all in tuning. I've seen 12 psi run for over 2 years on a basically stock daily driven GS-R. He had ITR internals and a thicker head gasket to lower the CR though. If you go anything, tuning is the key, JRSC tend to be more reliable when it comes to bad tuning. You can run 7-8psi safely on a stock GS-R block IF you tune it right, and it will last a good time.

 

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trying to up your post count..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

you should be talking assclown

 

Thanks for the input guys....yea it seems to me that turbo is the route i want to take for many reasons. It's flexable. Period...... Build it right. Tune it. Adjust it to your specs. Wahla....

What turbo bolt on kits do you recommend??

 

Vortech sucks. Parasitic loss, and lag.
gmoore

 

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jrscs have parasitic loss also, not sure about the difference in loss between the two though. but yeah, the bad thing about vortechs are that they have both loss and lag.

 

SC would seem to me to be less maintanence, so it depends on how much work you wanna put into your car to keep it running top-notch

 

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low boost jrsc for me . keepin the maintenance down and reliability up with a kick in the pants when i need it.

 

I'm basically in the same situation, I wanna get faster, and i don't knwo what to get a supercharger or turbo....i have a 97 LS integra, I think i'd rather get a turbo kit, something like the GReddy kit....but isn't a supercharger cheaper and almost gives u the same amount of power, i don't know much about both of them....i figure around 3-4 grand for each.....I basically just want to be able to run like high 13's or low 14's in the 1/4.....not real fast, just quick....not lookin to build my engine, so i wanna keep it reliable and run at a low boost, am i capable of that?