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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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Default 189.7whp on my B16, Dyno inside


*The "Fly Wheel" is not "flywheel" HP, it just says that on the graph

Tuned Hondata S100 by Church Automotive Awesome guy, and great work.

Setup:
Bone stock B16 block
Skunk2 Stage II Cams, Valvetrain (retainers nitride coated)
Milled .020 and running spoon headgasket
3 angle valve job and light port/polishing
ITR Intake manifold, & ITR Int. Valves, and new LMA's just for the hell of it
Every valve seal and keeper replaced

Very happy with the HP #'s, especially with a not-so-dyno friendly AEM cold air, JDM 4-1 Header, and Mugen Twin loop
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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I'm looking for some feedback as to WHY the torque curve is so...curvey
thanks
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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Change VTEC crossover point from 5500 to 6200 and you should have a smoother graph. You're engaging VTEC too early for those big cams.

fyi - That really does look about right for FLYWHEEL HP not wheel HP. Take it to another dyno and see if you can get anywhere close to 190WHP with just head/cam work.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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It's a dynapack, they read anywhere from 5-10whp more than a dynojet.
edit: meaning NO that it not flywheel, that is wheel, the wheels are removed for this type of dyno

*and vtec is @ 6k. the hump you are seeing is the aem CAI spike


Modified by Beave0101 at 2:44 AM 8/16/2003
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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I thought dynapacks read 5-10 whp more then a dynojet because the wheels are removed off. Someone correct if I'm wrong.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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they do, that was me and my typo
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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On the curviness, remember to look at the scale. The Dynapack sw automatically scales the chart to just fit the highs and the lows so it really exaggerates small changes on a relatively smooth curve. The torque curve, for example, goes from a low of 100 lbs-ft to a high of 116 lbs-ft. That's a relatively smooth curve (85% of peak from 2500 rpm to 8900 rpm).

Oh, and beave, again, very nice motor. Its a pleasure to work on engines that are well put together and running right.

C_A_T
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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The torque curve looks like that due to the scale-each increment is 2 ft-lbs., as opposed to most graphs you see where each increment is at least 10ft-lbs.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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nice #s
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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just for comparison's sake...
b16a:
-stock ecu
-vafc
-spoon headgasket
-ctr pistons [p30 rods]
-toda b's ( R valvetrain)
-DC jdm 4-1
- short ram intake
everything else stock.


Modified by B16b2b at 6:11 PM 8/17/2003
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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very interesting, anyone else with B16 dynapack numbers feel free to post them up
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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what does your compression read....psi?
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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B16b2b......
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMoToRB18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16b2b...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

good explanation brain......
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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those thumbs down mean ur corny
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMoToRB18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those thumbs down mean ur corny</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hope your knowledge of things "all motor" is more than your current displays of iq.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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ur makin no sense right now so dont even type back....and does it say u put down 151hp?...kinda weak if u ask me
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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i shouldn't even argue with you, BUT i had a little interest in this thread. if you aren't going to do anything other than type useless posts, find a thread in the classified where you can type, "weak" or "great stuff"

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMoToRB18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ur makin no sense right now so dont even type back....and does it say u put down 151hp?...kinda weak if u ask me </TD></TR></TABLE>
try 162/114
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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make more hp then talk...until then dont post up ur slow *** b16....y dont u be a man and go 1.8 or 2.0!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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of all the types of threadjacks I get this ?

allmotorb18c, sorry I don't know who you are or if you are joking but why the hell do you have to talk crap on other people only for their mods or the power they make, when he did absolutely nothing wrong.

please take your antics to pm, thanks.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 189.7whp on my B16, Dyno inside (AllMoToRB18c)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMoToRB18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make more hp then talk...until then dont post up ur slow *** b16....y dont u be a man and go 1.8 or 2.0!!!!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

you try making 200whp... or even 180whp out of a 1.6L motor... or you could be a ***** and take the easy route... buy a 1.8L or 2.0L
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Beave0101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Setup:
Bone stock B16 block
Skunk2 Stage II Cams, Valvetrain (retainers nitride coated)
Milled .020 and running spoon headgasket
3 angle valve job and light port/polishing
ITR Intake manifold, & ITR Int. Valves, and new LMA's just for the hell of it
Every valve seal and keeper replaced

Very happy with the HP #'s, especially with a not-so-dyno friendly AEM cold air, JDM 4-1 Header, and Mugen Twin loop</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have adjustable cam gears? Did you clay the motor for clearences? I'm asking because I have almost the same setup(JUN 3s instead of Skunks) with the head milled .030. I'm thinking if I run a stock headgasket I won't run into any problems with the pistons hitting the valves.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16b2b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

for all those who think this is crap... i may also. compression was 230 on 1-3-4 and 219 on 2. this was tuned like crap...you should have seen the vafc, but i didn't know any better at the time.

in my defense, i made 162hp at 8091rpm, and power was going straight up. had i revved any higher, the peak numbers may have looked much better.

STILL, Beave0101'a dyno is very impressive.

Modified by B16b2b at 6:11 PM 8/17/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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I still think 6200rpm is your magic number for VTEC x-over.

Here's another comparison for you: My stock SiR II B16A with I/H/E dynoed at 145whp on a mustang dyno.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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here's the motor before the previous mods, with only 01 itr cams/valvetrain, vafc, i/h. this is why i know the car was tuned like crap. 156/95


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