ok heres my dilema i'm trying to figure out what ecu program i should use for my set-up all the major detail about my set-up and motor are in my sig. but right now i am stuck between the mugen, jun, and the skunk2 program and before anyone says get hondata i don't want the hondata i already have a v-afc and plan on getting it tuned again after i figure out what program is best for me. oh and a couple more things i have that i did not mention is i\h\e dc 4-1 2.5 all the way back with no cat complete msd 6al ignition, fpr in tank 255 fuel pump rc 310 injectors cam gears and i think thats it.

 

Why not Send your ecu to Kenji?

 

i've heard of them but what do they do for ecu's

 

Take note that the mugen and skunk2 programs are almost identical. We can hook you up with a custom program made around your setup if you want. Email me rtzcom@yahoo.com

 

so out of the 2 programs mugen and skunk2 which one is better

 

Buyer Beware....

A customer was complaining about RTZCOMs custom chip.. It was pinging like hell and was running lean.

Buy MUGEN or skunk.... You'll be a lot safer since it runs rich....

DOn't say you weren't warned.

 

Based on the modifications you listed on your sig...try running a spoon program and tune the fuel mixture since you have a 1.8 block. This will be good for your CTR cams.

Choosing either the mugen or the skunk2 program wont matter since you'll be tuning with the VAFC. I'd say go with the mugen.

 

KOTSEMOTO...oh really? show some proof!

 

You guys have been warned. If you persist, just think that you donated your money to the salvation army, so that you don't get pissed so much.

Check out all his post. It will only take one thread to realize he doesn't know anything to make a Honda fast.

 

Best program for a p28 is HONDATA. Get it tuned for your exact setup. Forget about chips.

 

streetdreams>don't go with any of those chips, the ignition timing will not be correct for your setup...

kotsemoto>that's so funny, at every forum I see you at you're always trying to flame rtz and mess his rep up... Isn't it interesting how he's mature enough to not always flame you back? I can vouch for rtz, he takes care of his customers... kotsemoto needs to fall off the face of the earth and stop flamin good people...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HardLowrdRanger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kotsemoto&gt;that's so funny, at every forum I see you at you're always trying to flame rtz and mess his rep up... Isn't it interesting how he's mature enough to not always flame you back? I can vouch for rtz, he takes care of his customers... kotsemoto needs to fall off the face of the earth and stop flamin good people...</TD></TR></TABLE>

well said... No body likes roomer spreaders.. he said... she said.. Just dont do it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rtzcom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm getting into playing with the fuel and ignition maps in the ECU via computer. Software is similar to that of Hondata. I've seen how other racers fine tune their maps using a laptop in the track...though some are datalogging.

I would like to know the basics of tuning the ignition and fuel maps. I do not want to simply advance ignition and dump more fuel and assume this will do good.

If I want more bottom end...which areas should I be looking for to tune? Should I advance or retard? How about fuel? How about mid and top end?

I know this is a very extensive topic and nothing beats tuning by an expert with a dyno and wideband O2. But I just want a basic overview from which I can learn from. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hardlowrider&gt; It's not funny when your car run like ****.

It's not a roomer(RUMOR?! DUH?!). We will let everyone know about rtz's rep. Sure he takes care of his customers. He takes your money and runs away.

IF you want him playing with your timing and fuel, I say GO ahead. It's not our loss but we will do what we can to prevent scams from this guy.

Again it's all up to you. 60 bucks is just a few hours work. but a blown engine will help you decide which way to go next time.

 

anyone went through jdmhondaparts.com to get their ecu programed? i know they have spoon, mugen, and skunk2 duplicate programs you can get for less money than going straight to the company. i think its $160 which includes shipping

im kinda in the same boat lookin for a program for my ecu its a pr3 obd0 so i cant get hondadata can i???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TEAMGENDAI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best program for a p28 is HONDATA. Get it tuned for your exact setup. Forget about chips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly... I my hondata

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rtzIS_shit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hardlowrider&gt; It's not funny when your car run like ****.

It's not a roomer(RUMOR?! DUH?!). We will let everyone know about rtz's rep. Sure he takes care of his customers. He takes your money and runs away.

IF you want him playing with your timing and fuel, I say GO ahead. It's not our loss but we will do what we can to prevent scams from this guy.

Again it's all up to you. 60 bucks is just a few hours work. but a blown engine will help you decide which way to go next time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kotsemoto&gt;aren't you the Hondata distributor in the Phillipines? So why would you be getting your car tuned by rtz in the first place? Why don't you stop lying and go away... =P

 

Get that ish custom from KATMAN!

 

Sad sad sad the bickering that goes on...

I don't come to honda tech precisely cause of BULLSHIT like this.

RTZ is an honest, intelligent businessman.
HardLowrdRanger is an impeccably honest, cool guy.

Kosemoto has now crossed my shitlist three times:
-Once for pirating Uberchips
-Once for asking someone I know for information related to pirating hondata.
-Once for this bullshit.

As I understand it, the piece of this puzzle that is apparantly missing is that Kosemoto likes to HATE on ppl who TUNE better than he could. Why don't you tell everyone about the challenge you gave RTZ?

Kosemoto, I know this probably won't hurt you since you're just looking for a cheap buck and some software to pirate...

As far as I'm concerned you're on your last straw. Apologize here or be banned permanently from PGMFI. You'll probably laugh, but I will at least feel better about having one less liar and leech a member of the site making the most progress in ECUs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realfasthonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone went through jdmhondaparts.com to get their ecu programed? i know they have spoon, mugen, and skunk2 duplicate programs you can get for less money than going straight to the company. i think its $160 which includes shipping

im kinda in the same boat lookin for a program for my ecu its a pr3 obd0 so i cant get hondadata can i???</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can have hondata along with it, but whats the point of spending the money to chip if ur gonna run hondata ontop of it, from visiting the jdmhondaparts, it looks as if they send there chips to Katman(member here on this board), personally after searchign i say you cant go wrong with kenji or Katman, those seem to be the two favorites of members on the site, with that ECU u need to get HOndata stage2 or higher, and maxim rev limit is 9,000

 

no i wasnt going to get my ecu chipped if i was gonna get hondata... what im askin is does hondata make a program for obd0 ecu's? from what i have heard they dont. if i cant get hondata ill prolly get my ecu chipped

 

http://hondata.com/ecus.html

Right there on the website...

 

I had cheetah on this board to make me a custom ecu program.From what i heard is that he made tons of programs for Spec C's and jun 3's,even some ITB's i think.Tell him i sent ya.

 

Blundar,

I have no beef with you. I know he bought an ECU from you. But 1 ECU doesn't make him honest and intelligent. How long have you known him? 3-4 mos?

If you will ban me from pgmfi because of exposing rtzcom's lies then I will gladly accept
it. In time you will know the real score.


FYI:
I crossed your **** list twice. Once for bashing BONC in your forum. and Now.

I am not a Hater but if you consider my beef with RTZ hate then ok no prob.

Pirating Uberchips? why? Isn't Vertigo giving it out for free right now. Pirating Hondata? Now that's a big accusation. Somebody said that it is impossible to do so. but again why?

Would you care to elaborate what challenge RTZ got?

Hardlowrider,
Ain't my car. PI is a small place and word gets around. Most mechanics here know each other.

BUY FROM A REPUTABLE SHOP. It takes only one dumbass programmer to ruin your ngine.

Nuff said.

 

Your line of reasoning in this situation sucks and makes no sense. It's also interesting to note how you go around the internet looking for all my posts. Damn that's what I call a fanatic. I sent stuff to the PI? Show some proof. You're gh3y and you're lying.

At least that's one less lying leech at PGMFI.


Modified by rtzcom at 6:47 PM 8/12/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HardLowrdRanger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://hondata.com/ecus.html

Right there on the website... </TD></TR></TABLE>

alright im dumb thanks for the link