after hearing all the horror stories of them stripping, im reconsidering ordering them.

what do you guys think?

which is better? open or closed end?

 

i think open looks a lot cleaner..

 

I had them, on my old coupe which was stripped a while back. They saved my rims cuz they stripped! Ah, I wont roll them anymore, I had two sets beacuse 6 stripped while getting new tires.


Modified by UnrealSpeed at 8:22 PM 8/10/2003

 

seems like they strip on everyone

 

I have had mine for like three years, and have not yet had a problem with them... nock on wood! No, but I also heard that the new Koyo's have a new key that will not strip out your lugs, because the key is now made from a much stronger material and it is still light weight. I have the black open ends, and as long as you do not have a shop use an air gun on them then you should be fine, and you shouldn't use an air gun on any after market lug nut... it messes them up in time. ;}

 

check your IM <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZEAL-SPORTS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had mine for like three years, and have not yet had a problem with them... nock on wood! No, but I also heard that the new Koyo's have a new key that will not strip out your lugs, because the key is now made from a much stronger material and it is still light weight. I have the black open ends, and as long as you do not have a shop use an air gun on them then you should be fine, and you shouldn't use an air gun on any after market lug nut... it messes them up in time. ;}</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

get a allen key tool set from snap on........then u wont have to worry about the cheapo nuts...if not get what i got.......

 

are they Rays? if so, F you.

wish i had the $$$ for them

 

kyokugen
volk lugs is the way to go

 

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i have had mie for quite some time, just lube the wheel studs with wd-40 every now and then and no lug nut will strip, and dont use an air gun.

 

$130 shipped
$52 shipped

 

mine work fine

 

if you have kyokugens, post pictures please

 

Here is a pic that u requested Mr. DxHatchBack

 

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I used to have those, until a mechanic managed to strip some with an air gun!

 

thanks mr. zeal

 

I've had no problems with mine, almost 2 years now. Just remember to torque them to Kyokugen's specs, which is 88-110Nm, not 80ft./lbs.

I have been torquing to 90Nm and they've been fine. They are pretty damn light as well, you will swear they are made of plastic or something.

 

Lugs strip because people are morons and don't use 80 - 90 foot pounds to tighten them.. Instead they use an air gun or do it by hand and do it to 200+ ft lbs. This causes the AFTERMARKET, WEIGHT REDUCING lug to strip or causes the key to strip.

What do you think is gonna happen when you get lighter lug nuts? You think they are going to be stronger than your stock ones? Stock lugs are heavy in turn making them strong.

Bottom line is, all aftermarket lugs/keys will strip if not used properly. Some just strip more quickly than others. Instead of investing 100+ bucs on MUGEN lugs that "don't ever strip" try spending 100 bucs on a torque wrench so you can shut the **** up about your lugs/keys stripping.

 

my friend has koyo's and have never had a problem with them, he sitll have the extra 4 from his set, cuz he hasnt stripped one yet.

There 7 point, and you have to use the key to take them off, if you dont your gonna **** something up. Common sense will really keep you from stripping them, that and dont over torque them.

i also have Ray's! WOOT WOOT!!!! Just get over the price and buy the damn things. Its just $$$ dont sweat the petty stuff.


Modified by Moe at 10:35 PM 8/10/2003

 

mines stripped...
im using skunks now

 

yes thay are junk!!!!!!!!!!!

 

i wanted skunks, but they dont lock <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMb18civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mines stripped...
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i've had mine forever and nothing has happened to them yet......

**knocking on wood**