Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004!
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Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004!
I can't believe we're losing our race. It's been voted the best organized F1 race by FIA, and now we're losing it because of restrictions on tobacco advertising... The F1 week was always my favourite week in summer, I can't believe all we have left is a CART race. This is so frikkin lame. Bahrain is getting a race in 2004 and we're not! Un-frikkin-believable!
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Brian*Blue95M3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brian*Blue95M3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bernie hasn't confirmed it yet.
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also, they want to move the US Grand Prix up in the schedule so the both races can be had back to back to compete their North American swing.
The Belgian Grand Prix may come back in 2004 because they are looking has loosing their anti-tobacco advertising. That race brings in a lot of money to their little economy, and it's sorely missed.
Isn't China getting a F1 race soon?
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also, they want to move the US Grand Prix up in the schedule so the both races can be had back to back to compete their North American swing.
The Belgian Grand Prix may come back in 2004 because they are looking has loosing their anti-tobacco advertising. That race brings in a lot of money to their little economy, and it's sorely missed.
Isn't China getting a F1 race soon?
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (YodaIsGod)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YodaIsGod »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't China getting a F1 race soon?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, and so is Russia.
Yes, and so is Russia.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (speedracer33)
The rumor is that Bernie is looking to give the U.S. another GP, perhaps a street race in San Francisco.
The Canadian GP lost its place not because of tobacco advertising, but supposedly because the FIA wants the city of Montreal to pay for more of the race.
I really don't know about these weirdo GPs, like Russia, Bahrain, and China. I'm worried that they'll contribute to the alienating of the fanbase, and simply be a playground for gangsters and heavy-industry executives.
There has to be a race in Canada. The drivers love going to Montreal, and the island that the race is on is supposedly just awesome. I would rather go to Montreal than Indianapolis, but I guess now I have no choice.
Don't count Montreal out for 2005, though.
The Canadian GP lost its place not because of tobacco advertising, but supposedly because the FIA wants the city of Montreal to pay for more of the race.
I really don't know about these weirdo GPs, like Russia, Bahrain, and China. I'm worried that they'll contribute to the alienating of the fanbase, and simply be a playground for gangsters and heavy-industry executives.
There has to be a race in Canada. The drivers love going to Montreal, and the island that the race is on is supposedly just awesome. I would rather go to Montreal than Indianapolis, but I guess now I have no choice.
Don't count Montreal out for 2005, though.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Ross)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really don't know about these weirdo GPs, like Russia, Bahrain, and China. I'm worried that they'll contribute to the alienating of the fanbase, and simply be a playground for gangsters and heavy-industry executives.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh come on, what makes you think there are not hardcore racing fans in Russia or these other countries who are thrilled to be getting an F1 race? And why would a fan of F1 become somehow alienated because there si a race in Russia or China? There is a race in Indonesia and it is a HUGE success..
And don't buy into that sterotype of Russia and China being full of nothing but thugs, mafia and guys with gold chains in limos... those are regular people over there like you that will pay some money to go see a race...
oh come on, what makes you think there are not hardcore racing fans in Russia or these other countries who are thrilled to be getting an F1 race? And why would a fan of F1 become somehow alienated because there si a race in Russia or China? There is a race in Indonesia and it is a HUGE success..
And don't buy into that sterotype of Russia and China being full of nothing but thugs, mafia and guys with gold chains in limos... those are regular people over there like you that will pay some money to go see a race...
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Flux)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
oh come on, what makes you think there are not hardcore racing fans in Russia or these other countries who are thrilled to be getting an F1 race?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not saying there isn't some following...but anyone in those countries who can afford to consume himself with motor racing is probably reasonably affluent. Remember that the disparity of wealth in some of these places makes the U.S. look positively socialist...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There is a race in Indonesia and it is a HUGE success..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I trust you mean Malaysia. Who do you think attends the Malaysia race? Native Malaysians, with their long and storied love of motor racing? Hmm...try an assortment of VIPs from Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Bangkok, and Kuala Lumpur, as well as a host of western businessmen who are looking to do business in that part of the world. Oh, and don't forget the suits from Petronas oil company(of Sauber/Petronas fame).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And don't buy into that sterotype of Russia and China being full of nothing but thugs, mafia and guys with gold chains in limos... those are regular people over there like you that will pay some money to go see a race...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you looked at just how much it costs to go to one of these races? Sure, the middle-class Joe in America can afford it, but refer to my above statement on the disparity of wealth.
I still say it's a sad day when Spa-Francorchamps and Montreal are eliminated from the calendar in favor of second-and third-world countries whose dissentors are still executed (China), whose women are still veiled (Malaysia) and whose government cannot even pay its workers (Russia).
oh come on, what makes you think there are not hardcore racing fans in Russia or these other countries who are thrilled to be getting an F1 race?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not saying there isn't some following...but anyone in those countries who can afford to consume himself with motor racing is probably reasonably affluent. Remember that the disparity of wealth in some of these places makes the U.S. look positively socialist...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There is a race in Indonesia and it is a HUGE success..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I trust you mean Malaysia. Who do you think attends the Malaysia race? Native Malaysians, with their long and storied love of motor racing? Hmm...try an assortment of VIPs from Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Bangkok, and Kuala Lumpur, as well as a host of western businessmen who are looking to do business in that part of the world. Oh, and don't forget the suits from Petronas oil company(of Sauber/Petronas fame).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And don't buy into that sterotype of Russia and China being full of nothing but thugs, mafia and guys with gold chains in limos... those are regular people over there like you that will pay some money to go see a race...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you looked at just how much it costs to go to one of these races? Sure, the middle-class Joe in America can afford it, but refer to my above statement on the disparity of wealth.
I still say it's a sad day when Spa-Francorchamps and Montreal are eliminated from the calendar in favor of second-and third-world countries whose dissentors are still executed (China), whose women are still veiled (Malaysia) and whose government cannot even pay its workers (Russia).
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Civic44)
From the Montreal Gazette:
Grand Prix race up in air
Formula One czar Bernie Ecclestone denies Montreal event has been cancelled for 2004
WALTER BUCHIGNANI
The Gazette
News that the Canadian Grand Prix is being dropped from the Formula One calendar is creating more smoke and havoc than a first-corner pileup at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
Where all the mangled pieces will land, no one seems to know - certainly not the organizers of the annual event that draws upwards of 300,000 motor-racing fans to Île Notre Dame and tens of millions of dollars to city coffers.
The matter got only more confusing yesterday, with reports from Europe that F1 ringmaster Bernie Ecclestone was denying he has decided to axe next year's race in Montreal.
"I've no idea where this story came from - the calendar for 2004 has not been put out yet or even considered," Ecclestone was quoted as saying by the Press Association, Britain's national news agency.
Meanwhile, the source of the story, Canadian Grand Prix chief executive Normand Legault, has skipped town for the weekend, or possibly for the week, according to his spokesperson.
"He's gone," Richard Prieur said.
With Legault unavailable, his office issued a statement reaffirming his comments of the day before, when he announced he had received a letter from the legal department of Ecclestone's management company that the Montreal race was toast.
The reason given, Legault said Thursday, was the coming ban on tobacco advertising that would require the cars to race without their usual cigarette logos.
"In reaction to comments attributed to Mr. Bernie Ecclestone and repeated to several Internet Web sites," yesterday's statement said, "the Grand Prix of Canada wishes to state that it has not received any notice setting aside the decision of Formula One Management concerning the inclusion of the event on the 2004 World Championship calendar."
In other words, unless they receive official word to the contrary, local organizers have no reason to doubt the bad-news letter they say arrived on Wednesday.
If Ecclestone is now saying the race is on, yesterday's statement continues, "it would signify ... that Formula One agrees to run in Montreal while respecting the tobacco legislation of Canada and Quebec."
That would be a major victory for Legault, who made it clear he will not seek an exemption from the anti-tobacco rules that kick in Oct. 1.
But if local organizers sounded skeptical yesterday, it's because insiders don't always know what to make of Ecclestone's sometimes bizarre pronouncements.
Asked by the Press Association for his thoughts on next season's F1 schedule, Ecclestone is quoted as saying: "I don't know what's in my head at the moment; I'm so busy. But the calendar for 2004 is not out yet."
At the same time, some observers are questioning the timing of Legault's vigorous sounding of the alarm and subsequent quick exit.
Thursday's news conference was held in the afternoon, after offices had closed in Europe, making it difficult to get reaction from Ecclestone's headquarters. It also was held during a rare three-week break between F1 races, when the sport's major power brokers are on vacation.
Furthermore, it came just a week after organizers of the United States Grand Prix said they, too, had heard from Ecclestone about next year's plans - and that they included the Canadian Grand Prix.
Ecclestone told them the U.S. race was being moved from September to June so that it could run back-to-back with the one in Canada, said Tony George, president of the Indianapolis event.
Back at Canadian Grand Prix headquarters, officials yesterday refused to make public the letter at the centre of the controversy, citing confidentiality clauses.
"Believe me, there's a letter," is all Prieur would say.
Legault's only motive, he said, was to make the matter public as early as possible, with the hope that a resolution can be reached quickly. "We have to strike quickly. If we don't have a race in 2004, we doubt very much that we'll be able to get it back in 2005."
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Grand Prix race up in air
Formula One czar Bernie Ecclestone denies Montreal event has been cancelled for 2004
WALTER BUCHIGNANI
The Gazette
News that the Canadian Grand Prix is being dropped from the Formula One calendar is creating more smoke and havoc than a first-corner pileup at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
Where all the mangled pieces will land, no one seems to know - certainly not the organizers of the annual event that draws upwards of 300,000 motor-racing fans to Île Notre Dame and tens of millions of dollars to city coffers.
The matter got only more confusing yesterday, with reports from Europe that F1 ringmaster Bernie Ecclestone was denying he has decided to axe next year's race in Montreal.
"I've no idea where this story came from - the calendar for 2004 has not been put out yet or even considered," Ecclestone was quoted as saying by the Press Association, Britain's national news agency.
Meanwhile, the source of the story, Canadian Grand Prix chief executive Normand Legault, has skipped town for the weekend, or possibly for the week, according to his spokesperson.
"He's gone," Richard Prieur said.
With Legault unavailable, his office issued a statement reaffirming his comments of the day before, when he announced he had received a letter from the legal department of Ecclestone's management company that the Montreal race was toast.
The reason given, Legault said Thursday, was the coming ban on tobacco advertising that would require the cars to race without their usual cigarette logos.
"In reaction to comments attributed to Mr. Bernie Ecclestone and repeated to several Internet Web sites," yesterday's statement said, "the Grand Prix of Canada wishes to state that it has not received any notice setting aside the decision of Formula One Management concerning the inclusion of the event on the 2004 World Championship calendar."
In other words, unless they receive official word to the contrary, local organizers have no reason to doubt the bad-news letter they say arrived on Wednesday.
If Ecclestone is now saying the race is on, yesterday's statement continues, "it would signify ... that Formula One agrees to run in Montreal while respecting the tobacco legislation of Canada and Quebec."
That would be a major victory for Legault, who made it clear he will not seek an exemption from the anti-tobacco rules that kick in Oct. 1.
But if local organizers sounded skeptical yesterday, it's because insiders don't always know what to make of Ecclestone's sometimes bizarre pronouncements.
Asked by the Press Association for his thoughts on next season's F1 schedule, Ecclestone is quoted as saying: "I don't know what's in my head at the moment; I'm so busy. But the calendar for 2004 is not out yet."
At the same time, some observers are questioning the timing of Legault's vigorous sounding of the alarm and subsequent quick exit.
Thursday's news conference was held in the afternoon, after offices had closed in Europe, making it difficult to get reaction from Ecclestone's headquarters. It also was held during a rare three-week break between F1 races, when the sport's major power brokers are on vacation.
Furthermore, it came just a week after organizers of the United States Grand Prix said they, too, had heard from Ecclestone about next year's plans - and that they included the Canadian Grand Prix.
Ecclestone told them the U.S. race was being moved from September to June so that it could run back-to-back with the one in Canada, said Tony George, president of the Indianapolis event.
Back at Canadian Grand Prix headquarters, officials yesterday refused to make public the letter at the centre of the controversy, citing confidentiality clauses.
"Believe me, there's a letter," is all Prieur would say.
Legault's only motive, he said, was to make the matter public as early as possible, with the hope that a resolution can be reached quickly. "We have to strike quickly. If we don't have a race in 2004, we doubt very much that we'll be able to get it back in 2005."
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© Copyright 2003 Montreal Gazette
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Ross)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm worried that they'll contribute to the alienating of the fanbase, and simply be a playground for gangsters and heavy-industry executives.
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and you think that hasn't happened already?
I go to a Speed Channel, ALMS, ...even a CART race and I actually can talk to the pit crews and drivers...hell I may even run into a team owner and he'll stop and chat to a fan...
F1 has alienated itself.
The Silverstone and German GP's at least had some of the passing fans want to see...up until then, it's been nothing but an elitist's yawn festival of engineering technology being showcased.
Ever gone to a Moto GP or AMA Superbike race? Passing galore...actually entertaining to watch the skill involved....and great fan friendly access,...etc. You don't have to be a celebrity or business mogul to actually talk to the teams...I don't think grassroots is in the F1 vocabulary. They like to cordon us masses off at arms length with fencing...
I'll miss Montreal simply because it is a great city and the people there are amazing and friendly. F1 was a great reason to visit a great city and help their economy.
If and when the Bernie and Max Show get their heads out of their asses, and turn it into a fan friendly venture? Your guess is as good as mine....
That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it....LOL
I'm worried that they'll contribute to the alienating of the fanbase, and simply be a playground for gangsters and heavy-industry executives.
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and you think that hasn't happened already?
I go to a Speed Channel, ALMS, ...even a CART race and I actually can talk to the pit crews and drivers...hell I may even run into a team owner and he'll stop and chat to a fan...
F1 has alienated itself.
The Silverstone and German GP's at least had some of the passing fans want to see...up until then, it's been nothing but an elitist's yawn festival of engineering technology being showcased.
Ever gone to a Moto GP or AMA Superbike race? Passing galore...actually entertaining to watch the skill involved....and great fan friendly access,...etc. You don't have to be a celebrity or business mogul to actually talk to the teams...I don't think grassroots is in the F1 vocabulary. They like to cordon us masses off at arms length with fencing...
I'll miss Montreal simply because it is a great city and the people there are amazing and friendly. F1 was a great reason to visit a great city and help their economy.
If and when the Bernie and Max Show get their heads out of their asses, and turn it into a fan friendly venture? Your guess is as good as mine....
That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it....LOL
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Ross)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I still say it's a sad day when Spa-Francorchamps and Montreal are eliminated from the calendar in favor of second-and third-world countries whose dissentors are still executed (China), whose women are still veiled (Malaysia) and whose government cannot even pay its workers (Russia).</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/7527/
I still say it's a sad day when Spa-Francorchamps and Montreal are eliminated from the calendar in favor of second-and third-world countries whose dissentors are still executed (China), whose women are still veiled (Malaysia) and whose government cannot even pay its workers (Russia).</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/7527/
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (usuck)
I think the current locations on the calendar are well supported by their fans because there is some sort of link between F1 and the country. Whether it's the nationality of a driver, the manufacturer of a chassis or engine, or a sponsoring company, there is some link to the countries they race in.
What does Russia have to offer? Or China? These countries have no link to the sport.
I suppose you could argue that a race in China might bring Chinese interest in the form of sponsors or drivers, but I certainly don't see that happeneing in Russia.
What does Russia have to offer? Or China? These countries have no link to the sport.
I suppose you could argue that a race in China might bring Chinese interest in the form of sponsors or drivers, but I certainly don't see that happeneing in Russia.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Floyd)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Floyd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the current locations on the calendar are well supported by their fans because there is some sort of link between F1 and the country. Whether it's the nationality of a driver, the manufacturer of a chassis or engine, or a sponsoring company, there is some link to the countries they race in.
What does Russia have to offer? Or China? These countries have no link to the sport.
I suppose you could argue that a race in China might bring Chinese interest in the form of sponsors or drivers, but I certainly don't see that happeneing in Russia.</TD></TR></TABLE>
China = 1 billion people...although I imagine only 1-2% of the people have access to TV, and money. hehehehe...
Russia = needs to look at more advance technology that a F1 car is ridden with.
What does Russia have to offer? Or China? These countries have no link to the sport.
I suppose you could argue that a race in China might bring Chinese interest in the form of sponsors or drivers, but I certainly don't see that happeneing in Russia.</TD></TR></TABLE>
China = 1 billion people...although I imagine only 1-2% of the people have access to TV, and money. hehehehe...
Russia = needs to look at more advance technology that a F1 car is ridden with.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Floyd)
I would say one reason for the China race is that the automobile manufacturers want to sell their cars in the Chinese market, which is snapping up the automobile at a record pace as it begins to open up.
China is regarded by the auto manufacturers as the next big untapped market. So, I would say that's your answer.
China is regarded by the auto manufacturers as the next big untapped market. So, I would say that's your answer.
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Chinese mafia? i already hear people talking about the japanese mafia and chinese mafia. It's not mafia it's just gangs all fake wanna be's in no way is it organized crime. Russia however has a mafia, large one, worse than the italians.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (YodaIsGod)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YodaIsGod »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Russia = needs to look at more advance technology that a F1 car is ridden with. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Everybody's view of Russia as this backward, second-world country with nothing but rich crime bosses and masses of poor is way off.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Everybody's view of Russia as this backward, second-world country with nothing but rich crime bosses and masses of poor is way off.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Michael Delaney)
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I go to a Speed Channel, ALMS, ...even a CART race and I actually can talk to the pit crews and drivers...hell I may even run into a team owner and he'll stop and chat to a fan...
....Ever gone to a Moto GP or AMA Superbike race? Passing galore...actually entertaining to watch the skill involved....and great fan friendly access,...etc. You don't have to be a celebrity or business mogul to actually talk to the teams...I don't think grassroots is in the F1 vocabulary. They like to cordon us masses off at arms length with fencing...
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somebody's listening to the fans...
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/h...shtml
I go to a Speed Channel, ALMS, ...even a CART race and I actually can talk to the pit crews and drivers...hell I may even run into a team owner and he'll stop and chat to a fan...
....Ever gone to a Moto GP or AMA Superbike race? Passing galore...actually entertaining to watch the skill involved....and great fan friendly access,...etc. You don't have to be a celebrity or business mogul to actually talk to the teams...I don't think grassroots is in the F1 vocabulary. They like to cordon us masses off at arms length with fencing...
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somebody's listening to the fans...
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/h...shtml
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Flux)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Everybody's view of Russia as this backward, second-world country with nothing but rich crime bosses and masses of poor is way off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and....
Russia is just very broke.
Everybody's view of Russia as this backward, second-world country with nothing but rich crime bosses and masses of poor is way off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and....
Russia is just very broke.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PTownGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chinese mafia? i already hear people talking about the japanese mafia and chinese mafia. It's not mafia it's just gangs all fake wanna be's in no way is it organized crime. Russia however has a mafia, large one, worse than the italians.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh yeah, sure. Chinese have had the same tongs for probably close to 1000 years, but they aren't organized at all...
Japanese Yakuza has been known to manipulate national elections and force hostile takeovers of legimate global sized corporations. Not very organized either.
Just because you don't know, doesn't make it not so.
Back on Topic: Hopefully the Montreal race will stay or at least come back like Spa did. I personally love even the 'boring' F1 races, and think that this has been a very exciting season, and love the way the championship is shaping up. The more races the better.
Oh yeah, sure. Chinese have had the same tongs for probably close to 1000 years, but they aren't organized at all...
Japanese Yakuza has been known to manipulate national elections and force hostile takeovers of legimate global sized corporations. Not very organized either.
Just because you don't know, doesn't make it not so.
Back on Topic: Hopefully the Montreal race will stay or at least come back like Spa did. I personally love even the 'boring' F1 races, and think that this has been a very exciting season, and love the way the championship is shaping up. The more races the better.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PTownGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chinese mafia? i already hear people talking about the japanese mafia and chinese mafia. It's not mafia it's just gangs all fake wanna be's in no way is it organized crime. Russia however has a mafia, large one, worse than the italians.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll agree with "91SiKen" on this one...
I'll agree with "91SiKen" on this one...
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Michael Delaney)
am I seeing a new trend here?
http://jv-world.com/EN/Formula...shtml
they actually may need us (cable TV revenues and attendance) and actually have entertaining racing?
http://jv-world.com/EN/Formula...shtml
they actually may need us (cable TV revenues and attendance) and actually have entertaining racing?
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Michael Delaney)
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lol
Bernie's a joke... "All they had to look at from F1 on the Sunday morning before the race was the drivers' parade."
Maybe beacuse that's all that you left them, Bernie.
I'll have to admit that this season has been more entertaining than last, but only when it comes to the actual races and the standings.
Sometimes I watch qualifying, but never the pre-qualifying crap on Fridays.
lol
Bernie's a joke... "All they had to look at from F1 on the Sunday morning before the race was the drivers' parade."
Maybe beacuse that's all that you left them, Bernie.
I'll have to admit that this season has been more entertaining than last, but only when it comes to the actual races and the standings.
Sometimes I watch qualifying, but never the pre-qualifying crap on Fridays.
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (Floyd)
While I am upset the Canadian GP is gone, there always is Indianapolis (even though I secretly wish Tony George would fall off the wall when he waves the checkered flag and get run over by a Minardi 
). Everyone who has gone there has said the event is great, the venue is great, and just being around those cars is awesome.
I may do Indy in '04 just because I need to go to an F1 race. The race tickets are cheap, and if need be stay an hour or two outside the city... My dad and I did that in '94 for the 500.
As far as Bernie and his decisions go, well, he's Bernie Ecclestoned, we're not.
Though I do miss the "old" qualifying format, especially in Suzuka... I used to stand up and literally act like a tifosi at 12:45 in the morning when Schumacher would just eat that track up and fly through the 130R. ******* awesome stuff I tell you, and now it's gone...
Anthony "Mario" Crea
). Everyone who has gone there has said the event is great, the venue is great, and just being around those cars is awesome.I may do Indy in '04 just because I need to go to an F1 race. The race tickets are cheap, and if need be stay an hour or two outside the city... My dad and I did that in '94 for the 500.
As far as Bernie and his decisions go, well, he's Bernie Ecclestoned, we're not.
Though I do miss the "old" qualifying format, especially in Suzuka... I used to stand up and literally act like a tifosi at 12:45 in the morning when Schumacher would just eat that track up and fly through the 130R. ******* awesome stuff I tell you, and now it's gone...
Anthony "Mario" Crea
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Re: Shocker: Canada loses F1 GP for 2004! (honda93)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda93 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While I am upset the Canadian GP is gone, there always is Indianapolis (even though I secretly wish Tony George would fall off the wall when he waves the checkered flag and get run over by a Minardi ).</TD></TR></TABLE>
That cracked me up! Is there any racing fan that likes TG at all?
<== thinks that TG is planning on throwing a party for Bernie with the "good news" about the demise of the Canadian GP.
).</TD></TR></TABLE>That cracked me up!
Is there any racing fan that likes TG at all? <== thinks that TG is planning on throwing a party for Bernie with the "good news" about the demise of the Canadian GP.