alright guys, first off i searched and couldnt find the right info i needed so im just gonna post a few questions to start.........

im not too familiar with the swaps for the 92+ civics and my buddy just purchased a b16a first gen to swap in his 92 si.......... first question is, can this motor still be swapped in since its a b16a1 and not an a2?? if so, what parts will we need ?? im going to do some more searching but some responses would be sweet...... thanx!

 

bumpin

 

be sure to purchase cable to hydro conversion.

 

swap-wise it will be the same procedure as an A2. The a1 and a2 are pretty much the same, I believe cams and pistons are different, giving the a2 a little more power. But the block and head are the same.

Most of the stuff you will need, ie, axles, shift-linkage, and such will come from a 94-00 integra or a 94 del sol. I am at work and I don't have time to list everything. I believe Hasport.com has parts lists for a particular engine into a particular car.

This is the same swap I am doing, only I am putting in CTR pistons and cams, and type-r valve springs. Good luck to us both.

oh, and another biggie, V-TEC wiring. I believe all 92's are pre-wired for v-tec anway, not 100% sure. But, if he has a V-TEC d-series, Si and VX models, you won't have to worry about it.


Modified by BeerMan at 2:32 PM 8/6/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeerMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">swap-wise it will be the same procedure as an A2. The a1 and a2 are pretty much the same, I believe cams and pistons are different, giving the a2 a little more power. But the block and head are the same.

Most of the stuff you will need, ie, axles, shift-linkage, and such will come from a 94-00 integra or a 94 del sol. I am at work and I don't have time to list everything. I believe Hasport.com has parts lists for a particular engine into a particular car.

This is the same swap I am doing, only I am putting in CTR pistons and cams, and type-r valve springs. Good luck to us both.

oh, and another biggie, V-TEC wiring. I believe all 92's are pre-wired for v-tec anway, not 100% sure. But, if he has a V-TEC d-series, Si and VX models, you won't have to worry about it.


Modified by BeerMan at 2:32 PM 8/6/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanx this will definitely help

 

you might need a new intake manifold. older gen b16s had there map sensors mounted on the firewall. also some of the connectors might not match on the manifold. + the older gen manifolds flowed like **** and had small Tb's.

 

hydro tranny, axles, intermediate shaft and shift linkage.
id suggest gettin a obd1 intake manifold and injectors.

if its a gen 1 longblock off an auto car..........look into swappin cams.
as the cams from the automatic cars are weak.

 

wow....... seems like this is gonna be more trouble than its worth..............

btw: it came with the intermediate shaft and im trying to determine if it is an automatic............. if it was a cable bseries tranny then the clutch cable would be in the same spot as ta d series cable tranny correct? On the intake manifold it looks like it has a vaccuum assist of some sort which im guessing would be for the kickdown for an auto trans? thanx for your help guys

 

source: http://www.hondaswap.com/swap/viewer.php?id=54

First Gen B16A into 5th Gen Civic


Overview:

In this article I will explain how it’s possible to put a First Gen B16A into your 92-95 Civic. First, it’s important to remember that this setup will be OBD1. The only difference with this swap is using the first Generation B16A long-block, which can be purchased from online distributors for around 400-600 dollars.

Next, you’ll need to find a hydro transmission, OBD1 ECU, OBD1 Distributor, and use your original OBD1 wiring harness.

Wiring:

As far as the wiring goes, if you have a VX or Si you’ll need to lengthen the wires for VTEC and add a wire and plug for the knock sensor if you’re running an ECU that looks for one (More on this later). You’ll also need to convert the 4-wire o2 sensor to 5-wire if you’re going with a VX harness. The CX, DX, and Si all use 5-wire O2 sensors that makes wiring easier for the remaining three models.

ECU:

I recommend a chipped p28 with skunk2 program when doing this swap. The ECU doesn’t look for a knock sensor so adding that wire isn’t necessary, plus you bypass all emissions equipment that the P30 (Del Sol VTEC) and P72 (GSR) ECU’s look for. Please note, the skunk2 p28 program runs extremely rich, so buy a VAFC and some dyno time to get the air/fuel ratio correct.

Transmission:

The S4C (99-00 Civic SI) transmission has perfect gearing for the torque-less B16A. However, a GSR, Type R, or even Del Sol VTEC transmission will all work as well. B-series axles will also be needed, either from a Del Sol VTEC, Civic Si, GSR, or Type R.

Long block:

To be specific, you’ll be using the first generation B16A found in JDM Civic SiR’s and JDM Integra XSi’s. First Generation B-series mounts from any Acura Integra or Del Sol VTEC will need to be found, while I would recommend ordering shift linkage for the 99-00 Civic Si. From Honda, this shift linkage is around 70 dollars and you’ll end up using the d-series shifter. This requires some work as you’ll have to take apart your d-series linkage and put it back together using the b-series linkage.

Here is a list with approximate Pricing:

B16A Longblock (400-700)
Hydro Transmission (500-1500)
OBD1 Distributor (150 Used)
ECU (Chipped P28 150-200)
Mounts, Shift Linkage (200)
Axles (100-200 Used)
Total Price: 1500

Now of course this includes the best possible scenario, but if you have the time and patience along with some ability, you can have a B16A in your hatchback for about 1500 dollars. I have personally helped put this setup into a 92 VX hatchback. With a fields VTEC controller Cory Thompson put down 152 horsepower and 108 torque with no other modifications done to his car.

 

gracias

 

would I need the b16a wiring harness or can I use my convert my dx harness?