I was reading old posts about balance shaft eliminations and so on and I thought to my self...... WHY NOT JUST LEAVE THE BELT OFF????? I don't see where the problem would be in doing that, and wouldn't it have the same effect as removal, excluding the weight issue?

 

that pretty much sums it up. but the plugs clean up the appearance and blocks off the oil.

 

Who sells the plugs and caps?

 

i thought thats what most people were doing.. .just taking the belt off

i ran my f22 w/a balancer belt for about 20k miles, no problems cept for a cracked radiator and now warped head... h22 time w00t

 

but did the balance shaft being disconnected cause that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoolinlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but did the balance shaft being disconnected cause that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope... and guess what.. the balancer belts are comin off my new motor soon as i get it

 

so u need a re-sized belt then right..... since u need to drive the oil pump still

 

The oil pump's driven directly off the crank...you can just pull the belt. I used Hondaddict's billet plugs and eliminated the shafts entirely but it's the same basic effect.

--Ian

 

1. How does doing this benefit your car
2. How many tenth's of a sec will you improve by doing this
3. How will this affect your car if you drive on the for long distances

 

OK then i think i confused my self....... the oil pump gear is on the timing side on the right correct?........or, where the hell is it...... its been a long day and i'm confused

 

nope, the oilpump gear slides over the crank. The gear you're thinking of is simply driving the rear balance shaft...the rear shaft runs at 2x the engine speed.

As to the benefits...reducing rotating mass. Anytime you reduce the rotating mass you free up horsepower. For the doubters out there my engine runs smoothly and you'd be hard pressed to tell my sleeved/JE/Pauter/no-balance-shaft motor from a stock one even with ES inserts.

--Ian

 

Here ya go:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=550285

 

alright so not to sound like an idiot here, where's the oil pump gear at? is it on the timing side behind the first oil seal on the crank or is it on the back side(tranny side)?.........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoolinlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the timing side behind the first oil seal on the crank</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

ah ha thanks...... you finish tom's supra yet ian..... i ain't talked to him in a while

 

can i get to it w/o takin out the crank?

 

Haven't started his supra yet...trying to get some of the other cars outta here first. I'll probably get it in here next week and start working on it...unfortunately my new job is alot of travel so he's gotta be patient!

You can pull the oil pump without pulling the crank, you just need to remove the timing/balance shaft components and about a dozen 6mm bolts. It should be doable with the motor in the car but won't be fun!

--Ian

 

ehh the motor's out so no biggie......... yeah i talked to tom today-- actually i was standing next to him when you called n said you would do it this week for the show saturday...... let me know if you need a hand....... m right around the corner....