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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 03:46 AM
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Anyone ever tried this discs? Any infos would be great!
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 03:56 AM
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for the money spent.... the gains are not that good IMO.

regular metal rotors + good pads + ducting = fine for 'most' applications.

you are not a 'most' application.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 04:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you are not a 'most' application. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, yes, thats true. I lean to AP brake system, cause they make a system to match 15inch rims and has 28mm diameter brake rotors. http://www.apracing.com/

Any source where I can check Ceramic Discs?
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 04:21 AM
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which AP system is that?
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vactor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which AP system is that? </TD></TR></TABLE>
only available in europe, ap usa cant do sh*t.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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Yup, AP USA and their distributors are no good. I wasted time on the phone with all of them.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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It's all about thermal mass my friend. You're going to have to step up to a 16" wheel if you're making serious power. I think you can fit about a 12.1" rotor in 16" wheels. 28mm doesn't sound that big either?

Good ducting and enough of a thermal buffer are what's needed for track driving. The more frequent the hard braking, the larger the buffer you need.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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Ask these guys about ceramic rotors -

http://www.movit.de/htm/ceramic.htm

If you are going to use ceramic rotors - I think the entire braking system has to be redesigned to work effectively.

As well ceramic rotors are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You're much better off with a good Brembo setup and 17" wheels.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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can we use the Euro AP racing part numbers and get the requisite parts from them here?
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Def &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's all about thermal mass my friend. You're going to have to step up to a 16" wheel if you're making serious power. I think you can fit about a 12.1" rotor in 16" wheels. 28mm doesn't sound that big either?

Good ducting and enough of a thermal buffer are what's needed for track driving. The more frequent the hard braking, the larger the buffer you need.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thermal mass depends on the material. Carbon ceramic brake rotors are constructed of a totally different material than steel rotors, so comparing their heat capacity based on pound to pound would be
Also, 28mm is the thickness. Of course it doesn't sound big compare to the 12.1" diameter.

996GT2, GT3 and Enzo all come with those kind of brake system (optional on the GT3). It sure is not just a JDM bling.

Sigh.........
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