are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ?
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (D-SPEED)
No, the way the struts sit on the G2 differ from the G3. I'm not sure of the coilovers though. I thing that they differ in spring lengths.
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (IQ)
Dammit people, its SHOCKS, not STRUTS. 
Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day 
Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (Dawsonb17a)
I know that the suspension isn't interchangable between the two.
I actually thought that they made shocks and struts for the Integra, guess not.
[Modified by TypeC, 11:22 AM 8/7/2001]
Dammit people, its SHOCKS, not STRUTS. Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day
Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day
[Modified by TypeC, 11:22 AM 8/7/2001]
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (Dawsonb17a)
Dammit people, its SHOCKS, not STRUTS. Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day
Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day
Yes they should fit if they are coilover sleeves.
You can make the Shocks fit but you will lose suspension travel
[Modified by slowerthanu, 10:56 AM 8/7/2001]
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (slowerthanu)
I don't exactly know all the technical differences between shocks and struts but I do know this. A strut supports weight of the car and is acted as a support for the weight. A shock is not. I'm pretty sure thats an accurate statement. The shocks on the front of my car don't even have any attachments of any kind to the suspension from the bottom of the shaft, instead they're clapped onto a suspension fork from the side towards the bottom using one bolt! People use these two terms interchangeably all the time, but they're not the same. Notice how a lot of people have gotten bent out of shape b/c the new Civic and RSX use front struts? Why would people get pissed off about that if Integras already had struts? See, they don't. About that interchangeability, when I said they don't fit, I said that based entirely upon what I've heard and seen, it really was more of an educated guess, sorry. Man, I'd love more suspension travel on my G2, I hit my bump stops all the time when I hit a dip in the middle of taking turns really fast. 
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (Dawsonb17a)
Dammit people, its SHOCKS, not STRUTS. Integras don't have struts, they're shocks! Not the same thing! No, they're not interchangeable. Okay, I'm done being **** for the day
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (Teken)
OK my 2cents...
It may depend on which brand coilovers you have. I have my skunk2 coilover box right here next to me and they say "INTEGRA 90-00"
It may depend on which brand coilovers you have. I have my skunk2 coilover box right here next to me and they say "INTEGRA 90-00"
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (Dawsonb17a)
To the guy who IM me. Go walk in any Honda/Acura dealership, or any auto-part store, tell them to look up a susupension for a Honda or Acura and you will see that it says struts, not shocks.
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (mickey513)
Ok, Per this arguement I decided to look up some proof for one side or the other as even I was a bit foggy on this.
The statement that a strut is a supporting member of the car is correct
I found this pic
I also found http://www.monroe.com/shockdes.htm - Shock Design
and http://www.monroe.com/strutdes.htm - Strut Design
Notice the links are from Monroe.com which should be a decent source for what the difference is.
It would seem that even though HONDA uses the phrase [b]shocks[/] in their brochures ( I have a 1997. 1998 and 2001 Integra Type-R Brochures), that the proper statement would be that a 90-01 Integra as well as many other Hondas use Struts not shocks.
I will be doing a write up on this once I do more research for http://www.bseries.net
[Modified by Carlex, 4:30 PM 8/12/2001]
The statement that a strut is a supporting member of the car is correct
I found this pic
I also found http://www.monroe.com/shockdes.htm - Shock Design
and http://www.monroe.com/strutdes.htm - Strut Design
Notice the links are from Monroe.com which should be a decent source for what the difference is.
It would seem that even though HONDA uses the phrase [b]shocks[/] in their brochures ( I have a 1997. 1998 and 2001 Integra Type-R Brochures), that the proper statement would be that a 90-01 Integra as well as many other Hondas use Struts not shocks.
I will be doing a write up on this once I do more research for http://www.bseries.net
[Modified by Carlex, 4:30 PM 8/12/2001]
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (sw388)
This is incorrect as far as I can tell
I did this said search and netted tons of info that disputes everythging you stated. I am not here to argue but discuss would be good. Read my above post as info that shows where I am coming from.
i'm not disputing that there aren't any hondas or acuras that use struts (either all around or just the front. here are some hondas/acuras that use struts:
1g-2g accord
1g-3g civic
1g integra
7g civic
rsx, etc.
we're talking about 2nd and 3rd generation integras so not "all Honda/Acuras have STRUTS". dawson is correct when he called them shocks. they are not struts.
they even differentiate between the two major modern types of dampers in high school auto classes... and a simple search on any of the major search engines will net you tons of info to clarify any disagreements on which is what. find a picture of a complete front suspension assembly of a mac strut-equipped car and compare it to the ones on a 2nd and 3rd generation integra. the steering knuckle and the upper and lower control arms locating the steering knuckle found on 2nd and 3rd generation integra's is a dead giveaway that its damper assembly is NOT a strut assembly.
i wouldn't put much faith into a pepboys parts guy. most of them think honda i-4s are "v-4s".
about walking to any honda/acura and look for struts. go to santa monica acura and tell them you want a strut for your 2nd or 3rd generation integra. they will either
a: stare at you in disbelief
b: lecture you on the differences. i've witnessed both so thats a fact.
1g-2g accord
1g-3g civic
1g integra
7g civic
rsx, etc.
we're talking about 2nd and 3rd generation integras so not "all Honda/Acuras have STRUTS". dawson is correct when he called them shocks. they are not struts.
they even differentiate between the two major modern types of dampers in high school auto classes... and a simple search on any of the major search engines will net you tons of info to clarify any disagreements on which is what. find a picture of a complete front suspension assembly of a mac strut-equipped car and compare it to the ones on a 2nd and 3rd generation integra. the steering knuckle and the upper and lower control arms locating the steering knuckle found on 2nd and 3rd generation integra's is a dead giveaway that its damper assembly is NOT a strut assembly.
i wouldn't put much faith into a pepboys parts guy. most of them think honda i-4s are "v-4s".
about walking to any honda/acura and look for struts. go to santa monica acura and tell them you want a strut for your 2nd or 3rd generation integra. they will either
a: stare at you in disbelief
b: lecture you on the differences. i've witnessed both so thats a fact.
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (sw388)
That is a pic straight off the brochure . . .
First thing I did was pull out my Integra Brochures and read them. And they do say Shocks. THen I checked the net and nothing agrees with the brochures. I as I thought about this I decided that shocks is a more common term and seeing as how the brochure is a marketing pamphlet not an engineering manual I decided that the http://www.monroe.com info was mor liekly correct.
I consider the arguement about what an integra has to be somewhat irrelevant since the strut/shock makers know what we need and all we have to do is tell them a part number or car model. At the same time beinmg educated is important.
[Modified by Carlex, 5:26 PM 8/12/2001]
First thing I did was pull out my Integra Brochures and read them. And they do say Shocks. THen I checked the net and nothing agrees with the brochures. I as I thought about this I decided that shocks is a more common term and seeing as how the brochure is a marketing pamphlet not an engineering manual I decided that the http://www.monroe.com info was mor liekly correct.
I consider the arguement about what an integra has to be somewhat irrelevant since the strut/shock makers know what we need and all we have to do is tell them a part number or car model. At the same time beinmg educated is important.
[Modified by Carlex, 5:26 PM 8/12/2001]
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Re: are G2 and G3 suspension the same dimensions ? (sw388)
ekX (which number?) 94 delsols vtecs did not come with ABS. 95+ delsol vtecs did. i did not know the body designation changed in 96. if you know let me know thx!.
THe civic which is truly considered the eg (Although the del sol shared the chassis) only ran from 1992-1995.
there are numbers afetr chassis codes like you mentioned but the differences are commonly not mentioned and the del sol was not the first car to hit me personally.
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