what you guys think about this master cylinder brace?
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what you guys think about this master cylinder brace?
these look pretty good... a lot beefier than the cusco one for sure.. what you guys think?
http://www.evasivemotorsports....MC-BR
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (Chris N)
Looks Nice !!
What's all the hating for.... If he wants a better feeling brake pedal... Go for it.
I don't think it would be all that expensive.
...and how does a MC Brace screw-up your alignment?
Later.
What's all the hating for.... If he wants a better feeling brake pedal... Go for it.
I don't think it would be all that expensive.
...and how does a MC Brace screw-up your alignment?
Later.
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (oz#227)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oz#227 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks Nice !!
What's all the hating for.... If he wants a better feeling brake pedal... Go for it.
I don't think it would be all that expensive.
...and how does a MC Brace screw-up your alignment?
Later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what im wondering how does mc brace screw up alignment
What's all the hating for.... If he wants a better feeling brake pedal... Go for it.
I don't think it would be all that expensive.
...and how does a MC Brace screw-up your alignment?
Later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what im wondering how does mc brace screw up alignment
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (Chris N)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you can spend money better elseon other things besides MC Braces.</TD></TR></TABLE>
most good quality parts are costly, what u gonna do, buy a shift ****?
most good quality parts are costly, what u gonna do, buy a shift ****?
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (oz#227)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oz#227 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks Nice !!
What's all the hating for.... If he wants a better feeling brake pedal... Go for it.
I don't think it would be all that expensive.
...and how does a MC Brace screw-up your alignment?
Later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It isn't 'hating'.
There have been a few threads about whether or not they actually do anything at all, or just push stuff around.
Anyways, if you want better brake feel, bleed you brakes really well. If you REALLY want a better feel than that, go IM Tweakmeister and support his DIY (or DIH (Did It Himself?) ) MC brace. It does improve pedal feel, I have one. 
But to spend $100 or whatever on an MC brace that only helps the 'feel' of the pedal, that is A LOT of money for something so trivial. But then again, people spend a lot more on even more trivial items....
Search Warren's old threads that he created to find out about the alignment issue with MC Braces.
What's all the hating for.... If he wants a better feeling brake pedal... Go for it.
I don't think it would be all that expensive.
...and how does a MC Brace screw-up your alignment?
Later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It isn't 'hating'.
There have been a few threads about whether or not they actually do anything at all, or just push stuff around.
Anyways, if you want better brake feel, bleed you brakes really well. If you REALLY want a better feel than that, go IM Tweakmeister and support his DIY (or DIH (Did It Himself?)
) MC brace. It does improve pedal feel, I have one. But to spend $100 or whatever on an MC brace that only helps the 'feel' of the pedal, that is A LOT of money for something so trivial. But then again, people spend a lot more on even more trivial items....
Search Warren's old threads that he created to find out about the alignment issue with MC Braces.
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (Cha Shu Bao)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cha Shu Bao »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
most good quality parts are costly, what u gonna do, buy a shift ****? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nah, just use that $100 towards something else. Put it towards a suspension, a car payment, insurance, tires, wheels, pads, fluids, something more cost effective.
Why get a $100 one when you can either A) make your own, or B) use Tweakmeister's (or anyone else selling DIY stuff) MC Brace and still have 85$$ left??
most good quality parts are costly, what u gonna do, buy a shift ****?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Nah, just use that $100 towards something else. Put it towards a suspension, a car payment, insurance, tires, wheels, pads, fluids, something more cost effective.
Why get a $100 one when you can either A) make your own, or B) use Tweakmeister's (or anyone else selling DIY stuff) MC Brace and still have 85$$ left??
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (Chris N)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why get a $100 one when you can either A) make your own, or B) use Tweakmeister's (or anyone else selling DIY stuff) MC Brace and still have 85$$ left??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good idea, i guess i should go buy a can of krylon and paint my gsr wheels gunmetal
Why get a $100 one when you can either A) make your own, or B) use Tweakmeister's (or anyone else selling DIY stuff) MC Brace and still have 85$$ left??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good idea, i guess i should go buy a can of krylon and paint my gsr wheels gunmetal
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (HybridGSR1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridGSR1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">braking is one of the most crucial things in racing.. to me its not a waste of money at all</TD></TR></TABLE>
You do not understand the purpose of an MC brace.
Feel is nice, but feel is not important compared to actually being able to stop fast when necessary.
MC Braces do not shorten the distance it takes to brake whatsoever
So, go get better pads, fluids, rotors, calipers, whatever, but you are just fooling yourself if you think that a MC Brace will help you stop faster.
Who really cares if there is 1/8" play in the pedal or none at all, as long as you know that your brakes are going to stop you.
I'm not blowing smoke up your ***, ask just about anyone on here, and you'll get the same response.
Save your money and get stuff that actually helps you brake faster if you are so concerned about brakes.
Edit: I'm not trying to be difficult or an *******, just trying to help you see the trees from the forest. Misinformation on here is just as prevalent as real information....
You do not understand the purpose of an MC brace.
Feel is nice, but feel is not important compared to actually being able to stop fast when necessary.
MC Braces do not shorten the distance it takes to brake whatsoever
So, go get better pads, fluids, rotors, calipers, whatever, but you are just fooling yourself if you think that a MC Brace will help you stop faster.
Who really cares if there is 1/8" play in the pedal or none at all, as long as you know that your brakes are going to stop you.
I'm not blowing smoke up your ***, ask just about anyone on here, and you'll get the same response.
Save your money and get stuff that actually helps you brake faster if you are so concerned about brakes.
Edit: I'm not trying to be difficult or an *******, just trying to help you see the trees from the forest. Misinformation on here is just as prevalent as real information....
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (HybridGSR1)
Looks like a pretty solid piece. I built one out of stainless L bracket, and it's not half as thick as that one... If you don't mind dropping $90, I think it's worth it. I love my MCB btw, and I think it makes a noticeable difference in everyday driving and pedal feel.It WILL NOT decrease stopping distance however - just help pedal "feel".
The rumors about ruined alignment have yet to be backed up by any conclusive evidence...
A buddy of mine is getting a lipstick cam soon, and we'll be able to take some footage of my brace in action - more to come - stay tuned
FYI - I also have SS brake lines, ATE fluid, and Axxiss pads - all mods that should be done BEFORE getting something like this (as they actually decrease stopping distance).
The rumors about ruined alignment have yet to be backed up by any conclusive evidence...
A buddy of mine is getting a lipstick cam soon, and we'll be able to take some footage of my brace in action - more to come - stay tuned
FYI - I also have SS brake lines, ATE fluid, and Axxiss pads - all mods that should be done BEFORE getting something like this (as they actually decrease stopping distance).
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (Chris N)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You do not understand the purpose of an MC brace.
Feel is nice, but feel is not important compared to actually being able to stop fast when necessary.
MC Braces do not shorten the distance it takes to brake whatsoever
So, go get better pads, fluids, rotors, calipers, whatever, but you are just fooling yourself if you think that a MC Brace will help you stop faster.
Who really cares if there is 1/8" play in the pedal or none at all, as long as you know that your brakes are going to stop you.
I'm not blowing smoke up your ***, ask just about anyone on here, and you'll get the same response.
Save your money and get stuff that actually helps you brake faster if you are so concerned about brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn buddy.. relax... did i say it'll help me stop faster? helping brake pedal feel and sensitivity is a good thing to me.. i mean if u wanna diy wit zip ties or rubber bands go rite ahead..
You do not understand the purpose of an MC brace.
Feel is nice, but feel is not important compared to actually being able to stop fast when necessary.
MC Braces do not shorten the distance it takes to brake whatsoever
So, go get better pads, fluids, rotors, calipers, whatever, but you are just fooling yourself if you think that a MC Brace will help you stop faster.
Who really cares if there is 1/8" play in the pedal or none at all, as long as you know that your brakes are going to stop you.
I'm not blowing smoke up your ***, ask just about anyone on here, and you'll get the same response.
Save your money and get stuff that actually helps you brake faster if you are so concerned about brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn buddy.. relax... did i say it'll help me stop faster? helping brake pedal feel and sensitivity is a good thing to me.. i mean if u wanna diy wit zip ties or rubber bands go rite ahead..
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (HybridGSR1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridGSR1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">braking is one of the most crucial things in racing.. to me its not a waste of money at all</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am relaxed. The bold (unlike caps) shows I'm trying to emphasize something important.
BTW - check what you wrote above. It is not something that helps braking. Just feel, and a well bled system has a perfect pedal anyways.
Whatever, buy what you want. I was just trying to save you $85 that could be better used somewhere else. $15 for pedal feel is nice, but $100?? I'd rather buy good pads for that amount of money from Cobalt.
This site is supposed to help people make informed decisions, right? I'm not hating or getting mad, I'm responding to statements that indicated that an MC Brace was somehow going to make you stop better.
I am relaxed. The bold (unlike caps) shows I'm trying to emphasize something important.
BTW - check what you wrote above. It is not something that helps braking. Just feel, and a well bled system has a perfect pedal anyways.
Whatever, buy what you want. I was just trying to save you $85 that could be better used somewhere else. $15 for pedal feel is nice, but $100?? I'd rather buy good pads for that amount of money from Cobalt.
This site is supposed to help people make informed decisions, right? I'm not hating or getting mad, I'm responding to statements that indicated that an MC Brace was somehow going to make you stop better.
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They aren't made for a better feel of the pedal. Open your hood, have someone sit in the driver seat and start pumping on your brakes pretty hard! What did you see? The whole damn thing moves a good distance. So a MCB does serve a purpose. Good rotors, pads, lines and fluid will not help in keeping the Master Cylinder in place.
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (TypeR 01 886)
Warren went over this before. He showed that there was a VERY noticible amount of chassis flex caused by the brace. Because of this, he stated that it was probably likely that there was more of a downside to running a brace mounted on the upper strut mount than an upside in pedal feel. Search his old threads and find it, you will see what he was talking about.
If you want a bling part, go ahead, that one looks nice. If you want something totally functional, you can spend your money more wisely on something else.
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If you want a bling part, go ahead, that one looks nice. If you want something totally functional, you can spend your money more wisely on something else.
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (HybridGSR1)
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thats what im wondering how does mc brace screw up alignment</TD></TR></TABLE>
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thats what im wondering how does mc brace screw up alignment</TD></TR></TABLE>...search
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC5RK20A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They aren't made for a better feel of the pedal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what are they made for then?! As Chris already pointed out, they will not improve you braking performance in any way, shape, or form.
So what are they made for then?! As Chris already pointed out, they will not improve you braking performance in any way, shape, or form.
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (Chris N)
"The overall result is a greatly improved brake feel and sensitivity, therefore reducing brake fade"-from Evasive Motorsports. How the hell does that reduce brake fade? Chris is just trying to save people some money, why post a question if you don't want to hear what others have to say?
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Re: what you guys think about this master cylinder brace? (mr. clockwork)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr. clockwork »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Warren went over this before. He showed that there was a VERY noticible amount of chassis flex caused by the brace. Because of this, he stated that it was probably likely that there was more of a downside to running a brace mounted on the upper strut mount than an upside in pedal feel. Search his old threads and find it, you will see what he was talking about. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The brace in this thread clearly attaches to the shock tower, not the strut mount. While I agree slightly flexing the strut mount could cause alignment change, I am not convinced slightly flexing the sheet metal of the tower would. And if it does, I haven't noticed any ill effects alignment wise in the five track days and year of street driving since I got my LHT brace. I will have my car aligned soon. The proof will be in the pudding.
The brace in this thread clearly attaches to the shock tower, not the strut mount. While I agree slightly flexing the strut mount could cause alignment change, I am not convinced slightly flexing the sheet metal of the tower would. And if it does, I haven't noticed any ill effects alignment wise in the five track days and year of street driving since I got my LHT brace. I will have my car aligned soon. The proof will be in the pudding.