Ok, so as my signature explains I've got a pertty little accord 2000. And I want an H22 more than I want sex(most of the time). Anywho, if my plan is to buy the engine...strip it and have the block resleeved...forged internals...big boost numbers...is they're any real point to getting a newer prelude's engine???? Both would pose the same problems fitting in my car and a conversion harness will solve the ecu issue, and an OBD1 would cost alot less. Are they're any differences in transmission gear ratios b/w the years? Please someone enlighten me...thanks.

 

OBD1 is easier to tune with hondata

 

Emissions wide yes, tuning wise, no.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Emissions wide yes, tuning wise, no.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my bad i thougt its easier to tune obd1,i guess not

 

here is how it works (im dealing with the same bullshit with my OBDII 97 240sx)

engine: must be same year or newer, TECHNICALLY thats the rule. although the only place that matters is in california. ok with that out of the way

why?

OBD. most of the h22 swaps you are gonna get will OBDI and to pass emissions you must have it set up for OBDII. why again? because of the way they test OBDII. for OBDI they jam something in the tailpipe, put the car on the rollers and do their thing. with OBDII all they do is plug something into the computer and look how the engine is running. if you run OBDI that little plug dosent work, instant fail.

so to swap, you need a obdII h22.

 

my car's a 91, so if i get an obd1 ecu they wont even attempt the obd2 test will they?

last time i went, they did that tailpipe emissions test.

 

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my bad i thougt its easier to tune obd1,i guess not</TD></TR></TABLE>

ODB1 is easier,
I think poison was just saying that ODB2 is better for emmsions control and not for tuning.

 

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ODB1 is easier,
I think poison was just saying that ODB2 is better for emmsions control and not for tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya, that's what I was saying. Thanks for clarifying for me

OBD2 - easier for emissions
OBD1 - easier for tuning, I don't believe there are many chips if at all for OBD2.

 

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ODB1 is easier,
I think poison was just saying that ODB2 is better for emmsions control and not for tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh ok my missunderstanding on me again lol

 

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OBD2 - easier for emissions
OBD1 - easier for tuning, I don't believe there are many chips if at all for OBD2.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not for honda
there is 1 guy that does all nissan OBDII stuff. very cool ****.

 

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not for honda
there is 1 guy that does all nissan OBDII stuff. very cool ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well Nissan's are gay.

 

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Well Nissan's are gay. </TD></TR></TABLE>



need i say more?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is how it works (im dealing with the same bullshit with my OBDII 97 240sx)

engine: must be same year or newer, TECHNICALLY thats the rule. although the only place that matters is in california. ok with that out of the way

why?

OBD. most of the h22 swaps you are gonna get will OBDI and to pass emissions you must have it set up for OBDII. why again? because of the way they test OBDII. for OBDI they jam something in the tailpipe, put the car on the rollers and do their thing. with OBDII all they do is plug something into the computer and look how the engine is running. if you run OBDI that little plug dosent work, instant fail.

so to swap, you need a obdII h22.</TD></TR></TABLE>


In NJ I went through inspection with an OBD1 H22 in a 99 civic that I converted from OBD2&gt;1. The only reason why I failed was for emissions, which was because I dont have my EGR hooked up. So you cant say that its an instant fail. Not on person at inspection said one word to me about the h22 being under the hood after intensive spectating by many inspection station employees.

 

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In NJ I went through inspection with an OBD1 H22 in a 99 civic that I converted from OBD2&gt;1. The only reason why I failed was for emissions, which was because I dont have my EGR hooked up. So you cant say that its an instant fail. Not on person at inspection said one word to me about the h22 being under the hood after intensive spectating by many inspection station employees. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is true i failed to mention you need to see if your emissions testing station has OBDII testing equipment, because some dont. and they still do the visual and sniffer.

 

well i just wanted to add that i just (almost) crapped my pants. My sister just bought a 95 civic Ex, I looked at the inspection and it had a emission sticker on it. I was like WTF since when did they start doing emissoins here? I later found out that the car was from a different county than ours here in NY. Pheeeew

 

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need i say more?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh don't even!

 

LOL
dude
you know there are 20x more riced out civics than 240s

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL
dude
you know there are 20x more riced out civics than 240s</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, I know that, you just had to push buttons

 

Obd2 sucks **** and *****. If you like your check engine light to come on everyday then go with it and youll hate it. Obd1 is the only way to go if you want any performance. Oh and 240's suck.haha, inless they have RB swaps

 

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guess what i just ordered today!
will be here in about 2 weeks

 

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guess what i just ordered today!
will be here in about 2 weeks </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good ish

Have fun taking it out every year for smog yO

 

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Good ish

Have fun taking it out every year for smog yO </TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL man im not event thinking about that **** yet

ill worry about that later, i have a feeling i will find a way around it.

hows your civic bro? been a while since ive talked to you

 

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LOL man im not event thinking about that **** yet

ill worry about that later, i have a feeling i will find a way around it.

hows your civic bro? been a while since ive talked to you</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats cool, just pay some clown at emissions to pass it.

Civic is getting a new motor in about a week or 2 hopefully. Whenever it gets back from the machinest. Then one of those weird snail looking objects is going on the front of it

 

hey i have one of those on the side of my engine!

wich shipped out today should be here next week.

 

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wich shipped out today should be here next week.
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