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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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Default ACT Stage 2 clutch questions.

I got a 94' del so lsi, with the d16z6 motoor, i put in an ACT stage 2 clutch. When should i upgrade to a stage 3 and was it worth it.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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ACT does NOT sell their clutches in stages.

Clutchmasters might, as well as others, but ACT does NOT.

They sell them in different pressure plates and clutch discs, but they do not call them "Stage 2 y0!" or whatever.

Which pressure plate and disc do you have?

In my opinion unless you have boost there's no need for a D16Z6 to need anything more than the heavy duty pressure plate and modified street disc.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blue_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got a 94' del so lsi, with the d16z6 motoor, i put in an ACT stage 2 clutch. When should i upgrade to a stage 3 and was it worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>Stage 2? 3?? Tell me what parts you really have and I can advise if you like.
We have nine second cars running full street clutches and 13 second cars running full race clutches and both are happy. Neither would be happy if they switched it around. It just depends on what your expectations are, what power you have, and what you use the car for.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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By the way Dirk, your clutches are bad-***.

I've had the same Xtreme P.P with the modified street disc in my fiancee's B16A2 for THREE years now and it STILL can bark second and even THIRD gears when driven hard!

I'm thouroughly impressed by your clutches.

Do you guys currently offer a 6-puck sprung hub design?
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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Thanks for the kind words. We try hard to please.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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Don't mean to hi-jack anyones thread, but what do you think would be a good street clutch for a boosted d16z6? 22psi at the track but driven on 14psi daily. So I'd like a very streetable clutch that has some bite. Thanks,
Matt
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchback19 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't mean to hi-jack anyones thread, but what do you think would be a good street clutch for a boosted d16z6? 22psi at the track but driven on 14psi daily. So I'd like a very streetable clutch that has some bite. Thanks,
Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>I would recommend our XTSS because you said "very streetable". If you were asking for "somewhat streetable" I might recommend a HDR6 or XTR6.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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Well I drive about 70 miles each direction every other day, through Pittsburgh, Pa to college.. so I do a lot of city driving. Do you think the HDR6 or XTR6 would be alright for this? Also, is the XTSS able to hold upwards of 400hp? Thanks for the quick reply,
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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It's really a matter of torque not HP. Our XTSS for the D series will hold as much as 270ftlbs (max) so you will definitely be pushing it. The only other option is to run the race disc which sacrifices some driveability for the extra torque capacity. Let's face it, when you just about triple the stock HP it's hard to keep it streetable with such a small clutch.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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My turn, my turn. Clutch recommendation for B20vtec making 180-190whp in a 1750lb Civic. Oh and do you have a distributor in Australia?
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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Since we're all asking questions. I'm going to be turboing my D16Y8 very soon at about 8-10 psi. Hopefully a good 180-200 whp. What would you recommend? I don't want to kill my calf while driving ;/
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:57 AM
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Both Aussie and Happyman setups are not that wild and only need a HDSS (heavy duty pressure plate, perfomance organic disc) in my estimation. Distributor in Austrailia? I did some work with Brenton from Adelaide clutch before the economic situation made our parts too expensive by the time it lands. I am not sure who else to recommend.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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I have your HDSS and love it so far. Right now I'm only putting down about 170 ft lbs. In about 2 months I'll be putting down 220-230 ft lbs. Will it hold up to that?

In about a year I'm switching from nitrous to turbo or turbo+nitrous. I hope to make around 300 ft lbs then, and I know for sure it will require something better then, what do you have to suit an application like that? I know that it becomes less streetable, but I have driven my friend's B16 with 6-puck and it wasn't too bad.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have your HDSS and love it so far. Right now I'm only putting down about 170 ft lbs. In about 2 months I'll be putting down 220-230 ft lbs. Will it hold up to that?

In about a year I'm switching from nitrous to turbo or turbo+nitrous. I hope to make around 300 ft lbs then, and I know for sure it will require something better then, what do you have to suit an application like that? I know that it becomes less streetable, but I have driven my friend's B16 with 6-puck and it wasn't too bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>Torque capacity calculates at 243 peak so you are pushing it. I like to see at least 10% over what you are making. The best street setup is to use the Xtreme pressure plate along with the same disc but that's also expensive. You could change to the puck for a lot less $$ and still use your HD pressure plate but you give up some drivability as you already know.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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ok, so im in for question asking too, i have a d16a9, going turbo soon, at 6 to 8 psi...hoping for 140 to 160 whp, dont know about expected torque though...by the way, my stock clutch is really messed up, it slip all the way through the rpm band in every single gear, cant shift fast for ****... so help would really be apreciated...

Sorry for the thread hijack
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Torque capacity calculates at 243 peak so you are pushing it. I like to see at least 10% over what you are making. The best street setup is to use the Xtreme pressure plate along with the same disc but that's also expensive. You could change to the puck for a lot less $$ and still use your HD pressure plate but you give up some drivability as you already know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So just getting a puck clutch and using the HD pressure plate would be fine?? How much would that hold? I figured I would end up having to get a new pressure plate and clutch.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So just getting a puck clutch and using the HD pressure plate would be fine?? How much would that hold? I figured I would end up having to get a new pressure plate and clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>The HDR6 is rated at 311ftlbs. When you step up to the 300ftlbs then you will have to consider the Xtreme pressure plate. If the HD pressure plate is still in good shape I would go ahead and run it again. Even if the surface has some hot spots, you will most likely not know the difference when you are running the puck. As long as the pressure plate is still flat. Lay a straight edge on the casting and see how much bow there is. If it is less than .015", just run it. Also make sure there are no cracks. If it's fairly new, it will be one of our ductile castings which are stronger.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blindstuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, so im in for question asking too, i have a d16a9, going turbo soon, at 6 to 8 psi...hoping for 140 to 160 whp, dont know about expected torque though...by the way, my stock clutch is really messed up, it slip all the way through the rpm band in every single gear, cant shift fast for ****... so help would really be apreciated...Sorry for the thread hijack</TD></TR></TABLE>HDSS should be fine. You will get a solid 50% increase in torque capacity which is perfect for moderate boost levels. It will be real streetable as well.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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thanx for the reply, i'll be looking in to buying an HDSS...
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:16 AM
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Thanks for the reply, the clutch is about 8 or 9 months old. Would it likely have the ductile casting?
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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Sorry for being such a n00b, what clutch code for a DOCH non Vtec d16a9?
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blindstuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for being such a n00b, what clutch code for a DOCH non Vtec d16a9?</TD></TR></TABLE>Your best bet is to consult our website at http://www.advancedclutch.com for exact part numbers for your year eng. trans. combination or call our customer service people at 661-940-7555.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the reply, the clutch is about 8 or 9 months old. Would it likely have the ductile casting?</TD></TR></TABLE>Most likely it's ductile.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blindstuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanx for the reply, i'll be looking in to buying an HDSS...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've run this clutch for the past 11000 miles ... 10500 of which were boosted and 500 of which aren't. I highly recommend it! Very streetable, grabs HARD, pedal stiffness a little bit more than stock but nothing to cramp your left leg over. If I ever have to get another clutch for my car, I'm going back to the HDSS (even though my current mods don't need it )
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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thanx for the feedback, nice to hear good opinions of what im gonna buy...
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