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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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I got a 94' Del Sol si, i want either a b16 or a b18, i can get either for 2000, which should i get... b16 turbo charged or b18?
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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if there the same price, id say B18
but don't you have a B16? If so use that, make sure u re-sleeve it.
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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just boost your D series... its easier than a swap,, and will net faster 1/4 mile times if done properly
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just boost your D series... its easier than a swap,, and will net faster 1/4 mile times if done properly</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just boost your D series... its easier than a swap,, and will net faster 1/4 mile times if done properly</TD></TR></TABLE>
you are an idiot

edit: btw... for the same price.. 1.8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greebler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if there the same price, id say B18
but don't you have a B16? If so use that, make sure u re-sleeve it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no he doesnt... del sol vtecs do.. not si's
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtr y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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How is he an idiot? He's correct. Boosted d-series is what I would recommend as well.
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Wow you think I'm an idiot,, how nice of you to be judgemental. Why don't you go price a complete B-18 swap,, and then go price a ready made trubo kit for a D series. Then go find out what both people run with either setup. Then come back to reality, and say your sorry for being an ***, and a uninformed B series swap fanatic


BTW I run 14.27 on a D series, all motor, last time I looked that was a faster Et than over 1/2 of the B series guys. I only have 1500.00 in my setup,, how's that for budget performance? Combine that with the fact that I am a Mod on another Honda web board, moderating a forum that strictly deals with D series motors, and yes my friend you look like another ricer that needs to get a clue.
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow you think I'm an idiot,, how nice of you to be judgemental. Why don't you go price a complete B-18 swap,, and then go price a ready made trubo kit for a D series. Then go find out what both people run with either setup. Then come back to reality, and say your sorry for being an ***, and a uninformed B series swap fanatic


BTW I run 14.27 on a D series, all motor, last time I looked that was a faster Et than over 1/2 of the B series guys. I only have 15.00 in my setup,, how's that for budget performance?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok... hes ganna boost the b-series no matter what... so why whould he wanna start out with a smaller engine like a d-series
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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get the b series motor
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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1. Initial cost is less for the D series
2. Cost of aftermarket performance parts is less for the D series
3. 0.20 Liters of displacement is an insignificant amount of displacement to stress about when your F/I
4. Replacement cost of a D series is far less than a B series.
5. Tuning a D series is easier, and cheaper
6. Less weight
7. Less engine management hassles to worry about a D series than with a B series swap when you combine it with forced induction.
8. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the D series motors, unless your just one of the ignorant masses that is wrapped up in the B series myth.


Now why don’t you go cry about your post count, and the limitations placed on you?
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. Initial cost is less for the D series
2. Cost of aftermarket performance parts is less for the D series
3. 0.20 Liters of displacement is an insignificant amount of displacement to stress about when your F/I
4. Replacement cost of a D series is far less than a B series.
5. Tuning a D series is easier, and cheaper
6. Less weight
7. Less engine management hassles to worry about a D series than with a B series swap when you combine it with forced induction.
8. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the D series motors, unless your just one of the ignorant masses that is wrapped up in the B series myth.


Now why don’t you go cry about your post count, and the limitations placed on you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
so this is all about spending less money huh... well thats just retarded
...and about tuning is easier and cheaper is just stoopid. both have to do with timing and the right amount of fuel
a d-series wasnt even one of the choices he was asking about...

and if u think a single cam will be faster than a b-series with the same mods and boost.. your high
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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So you want to spend more money to get the same amount of power,, now thats retardation. Have fun spending thousands of dollers to pick up .20 in displacement, and minimal gain in HP for the amount of money spent.

Yes tuning a D series is cheaper and easier to tune,, one cam instead of two, or can you not count? Less time on the dyno to dial in the cams=less money.

I don't seem to remember ever posting anything about a D series having the same performance as a B series for a given setup, thats just another one of your ignorant assumptions.

I know the D series wasen't a choice, I suggested it because its a viable option, since its already under his hood.

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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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tuning a cam takes likes about 5 mins... plus timing, fpr, vafc, hondata.. what ever it may be comes into play when tuning.
so dont give me that a single cam is cheaper and easier to tune.

i highly doubt that the d series will be as reliable seeing as how it will need to boost much higher to make the same power
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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Yeah you really know alot about the D series don't ya
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtr y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you are an idiot

edit: btw... for the same price.. 1.8

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No, for the same price go B16. B16 with a turbo will produce more power than a b18b with the same mods.

Also turbo D-series is a very good option. For the price of a b18b swap he can have a nice turbo kit on the motor already in his car. Replacement engines are cheap, parts are cheap, and they can make big power just like any other motor. Yes a stock b-series with a kit on it will be faster than a stock d-series with a kit but the cost of the b series will be much more and is not always the best option for everyone.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No, for the same price go B16. B16 with a turbo will produce more power than a b18b with the same mods.

Also turbo D-series is a very good option. For the price of a b18b swap he can have a nice turbo kit on the motor already in his car. Replacement engines are cheap, parts are cheap, and they can make big power just like any other motor. Yes a stock b-series with a kit on it will be faster than a stock d-series with a kit but the cost of the b series will be much more and is not always the best option for everyone.
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maybe hes talking bout a b18c... thts why i say 1.8
...but if he mean b18b, then i hightly recoment a b16

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah you really know alot about the D series don't ya </TD></TR></TABLE>
u like to think u do huh
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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b16 turbo&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt; more fun.....
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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Why can't people just stick to the options listed by the original poster?

If the ************ wanted to boost his D, he would have listed it as an option. ******* dificult ************* in this forum....some of you tards are the reason why there IS NOTHING TECH in here. This place turns to ****.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why can't people just stick to the options listed by the original poster?

If the ************ wanted to boost his D, he would have listed it as an option. ******* dificult ************* in this forum....some of you tards are the reason why there IS NOTHING TECH in here. This place turns to ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the guy lists a vauge option on b18 vs. b16 he obviously has no clue what he wants to do. Giving someone other options on a setup that they may not have thought of is why people come here. People are trying to help, take your head out of your *** and rant somewhere else
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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suck a ****! My head is from from mah ***, thank you.

I'll rant all god damn day. Answer this, did he ask about a turbo charging his original motor?

We all know these threads are usless anyways.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If the guy lists a vauge option on b18 vs. b16 he obviously has no clue what he wants to do. Giving someone other options on a setup that they may not have thought of is why people come here. People are trying to help, take your head out of your *** and rant somewhere else </TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha. another guy bringing the thread off topic and looking for an argument. on you.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">suck a ****! My head is from from mah ***, thank you.

I'll rant all god damn day. Answer this, did he ask about a turbo charging his original motor?

We all know these threads are usless anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahaha. exactly
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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How many people have 350 hp D series turbo? Not hating, just want to see Id love to get another ek hatch and turbo the d series and see what she can do, it is VERY cheap to replace, cause everyone throws away there good d serries for the bs
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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come on man your being awful nasty to us b series guys dont you think....
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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si with 60 trim t3-t4 31.1 at track
single cam vetc with alittle biger setup 11.8

Im a b series man but damn those little single cams will run
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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yeah they'll run...I'm about to boost my d16y5....might swap to a y8 though. lol Still keepin it in the D-SERIES family.

I'm a firm believer that you should mod the engine that came with the car.
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