im curently running 10;1 With a 125 shot of nitrous. But i blew it up so im thinking of going all engine. 12;1 a good idea?

 

too much juice huh,
yeah that would be no problem as long as u take care of all the stuff u blew up
but no 4 reals 12.1 on pump gas is safe, just make sure u get it tuned right, recommend getting a v-fac or hondata if you don't already have either!!
good luck man !

 

it could be done, its all in the tuning.

 

im running a v-afc. I will b buying a hondata if i go all engine. It was pretty much pointless with nitrous so i didn;t get one

Thanx boys

 

are you getting the block resleeved?

 

I would opt for the Hondata, before the V-AFC when Running 12.1 comp on pump gas. You would want to tune the ignition maps. And you cant with the V-ACF

 

yes i have to resleave it. I think im just going to stick with my nitrous. Its alot of trouble going all engine. My cars been off the road long anuf. In 3 years i only did 10 000kms on it.

 

I'm running 11.89:1 rollerwaves on 94 octane...I have fuel and ignition tuning though

 

Who makes rollerwaves
that's one clean block
do you mix your own gas or do you guys have 94 up there?

 

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that's one clean block
do you mix your own gas or do you guys have 94 up there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Endyn does http://www.theoldone.com

We have 94 up here it's an ethanol blend

 

there was a guy over here in australia running 13:1, not sure how our pump fuel compares or how we take the RON rating as compared to you guys in the US but we have 98 RON at the pump.

 

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We use (R+M)/2 Research and Mechanical...so 98 RON is close to 94 (R+M)/2 as far as I know

 

Another thing. Im way up north, there is no tunner shops around here. Actualy im the only guy with a swap. So im just gonna stick with the ***** way NAWZ yo

 

hey satan srv, ive heard that ethanol in the fuel is not a good idea

 

california switched thinking it was cleaner burning, but found out just the opposite and IIRC banned it because it can produce some toxic ****

 

running compression that high to its max potential requires more than just the pistons to take advantage of it


resleeve, port the head, get some aggressive cams to take advantage of the flow, valvetrain, hondata is my suggestion, a good header and you'll see some nice numbers

if you're going to do it, do it the right way the first time while the motor is apart.

 

you say your just going to go n2o, but n2o loves high compression. sleeved, 12:1, some good cams, and 150 shot and your good to go!...of course theres more to it then that, but you get my point.

 

High comp and nitrous do NOT mix

 

high compression+n20= its all in the tuning. a set of good cams will also help resist detention. if you do it right, you have the ign.maps set to run all moter, then when you spray you take some out depending on how much you spray(this can be done via msd digi 6, or an aem ems or similar). you run colder plugs, the right maps and the right a/f ratio and you will be loving it.

 

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You aren't the brightest crayon in the box are you?

Do you even know why you blew your motor?

 

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glad to see you here, i was waiting on you to respond to this.

i didnt even notice that part. the v-afc will do nothing for a n2o setup.

the hondata's do have a n2o option now.

 

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glad to see you here, i was waiting on you to respond to this.

i didnt even notice that part. the v-afc will do nothing for a n2o setup.

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Even a VAFC will allow you to tune the A/F ratio while on the bottle. The more control that you have over the amount of fuel going into the motor the better, especially when you are sending nitrous into the combusiton chambers.

Edit:spelling

 

sorry i didnt explain my self. the way i see it you have to options w/a v-afc. tune it to run on the bottle, which assuming a dry setup, when off the bottle you will run rich and shitty. or tune it for off the bottle, then you run lean on the n2o and blow it.


i dont see how it would help a wet setup since you spray n20/fuel together, just need something to control ign. maps, which a vafc wont do.

 

I won't touch dry setups, so I'll just refer to wet setups. With the jetting combo that I was running for my 85 shot on my direct port kit I had an AF of 10.5:1. Obviously this was very rich and I made below average power(217whp/202trq). If I would have had a VAFC I could have tuned my car off of the bottle(ie. leaned out the fuel map), which would have also helped raise my AF ratio on the bottle. This would have given me more hp both on and off of the bottle. Make sense?

 

ya that makes sense...i was just thinking that you could just change the pill for less fuel to to run the right a/f...but bigger jet on the bottle, and leaner off makes sense also...


but back to the orignal statement, n20 does like high compression to a point, as long as its tuned good...would you not agree