im wondering how much of a difference there is between skunk2 stage 1 cams and ctr/itr cams for my gsr. i'm guessing the skunks are better but i dunno if its worth the extra 300 to 350 dollars.

 

go with stage 1 cams.. if you can get a good deal .. if not then ctr is your next best

 

It depends what kind of power you are looking for. Think about long term. You don't want to get ITR/CTR cams and then want bigger cams and have to sell/buy again. Just think about what you want to do with your setup.

By the way......00-01 ITR cams are the same thing as CTR cams. Just figured you may want to know that.

 

Skunk2 1's fo shizzle

If you wanna hear them bad boys in action then watch skunk2nrs dyno run with them.. Here's the link: http://www.we-todd-did-racing....3D%3D

VTEC sounds sick and they make more power than itr\ctr

Note: don't bother giving me the "its not vtec, it's the secondaries" crap, he has a skunk2 IM so it IS vtec. even with the dual stage intake manifold it still is VTEC making all the nOiZe y0.

 

are you drag racin gor short track racing. if you are drag racing go with the skunks they produce the best hp up near the 8000-9000rpm range
itr/ctr are midrange cams and hit peak hp at 6800-8400 rpm.
persoanlly i race short track and auto cross. so i wen t with itr cams and increased my overall torque and hp gains from 2500 to redline, with a little tuning.
skunks will only net you gins for top end performance and youwill loose low end torque aas well as hp until vtec kicks in. not a good thing on a honda considering these are attributes that are already missin gfrom the stock gsr engine.

 

Very well said. I had a this dilemma and I just went for Type R's cause I got a good deal. Get whatever is in your budget range.

 

if i were u i would go bigger i have itrs in my gsr right now.. and they are nice but not what im looking for mine are for sale .. as i am upgrading . good luck

 

Get stage 3s

 

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lumpy idle ownz j00, so do emissions @ inspection

 

stage1 are smog legal.. arent they already... i say skunks

 

Hands down Skunk2.

 

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If you wanna hear them bad boys in action then watch skunk2nrs dyno run with them.. Here's the link: http://www.we-todd-did-racing....3D%3D

VTEC sounds sick and they make more power than itr\ctr

Note: don't bother giving me the "its not vtec, it's the secondaries" crap, he has a skunk2 IM so it IS vtec. even with the dual stage intake manifold it still is VTEC making all the nOiZe y0.</TD></TR></TABLE> oh..so since vtec sounds crazy on skunk2nrs car...that means you should get skunk2 stage 1s. disregard the fact that he put down somewhere around 160 whp after he first got them in,which is lower than most gsr w/ ctr cams. Skunk2 stage 1 has not been proven to make more whp than ctr cams, and definitely not proven to have oem reliability of ctr cams.

 

Let me guess, you have ctr\itr cams? lol

If they are tuned then they will make more power than itr\ctr, bottom line.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Threatcon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> oh..so since vtec sounds crazy on skunk2nrs car...that means you should get skunk2 stage 1s. disregard the fact that he put down somewhere around 160 whp after he first got them in,which is lower than most gsr w/ ctr cams. Skunk2 stage 1 has not been proven to make more whp than ctr cams, and definitely not proven to have oem reliability of ctr cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea. I made 160wHP when I just slapped the cams on there without tuning... You do know tuning is the key right?

But after a little bit of tuning, i got right up to 171wHP, still running on stock ecu, stock cat, stock valvetrain, and stock TB.

neo1z can vouch these cams have very good potential. He has a similar setup as mine, cept with the ecu upgrade and some other stuff, and he hit close to 190wHP on stock bottom end, PRE-pistons. Hmm... i would think it would be a little harder to do that with ITR cams...

 

my friend with a b16 made 161 hp with one stage one cam and a ctr cam

 

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Yea. I made 160wHP when I just slapped the cams on there without tuning... You do know tuning is the key right?

But after a little bit of tuning, i got right up to 171wHP, still running on stock ecu, stock cat, stock valvetrain, and stock TB.

neo1z can vouch these cams have very good potential. He has a similar setup as mine, cept with the ecu upgrade and some other stuff, and he hit close to 190wHP on stock bottom end, PRE-pistons. Hmm... i would think it would be a little harder to do that with ITR cams...</TD></TR></TABLE>get em jun.....

 

My 2 cents on it. The skunk 2 stage one are bigger(much bigger) cams. But also keep in mine that the ABDC on the skunk 2s is bigger therefore you really need raised compression to realize the gains of them. Therefore with stock compression I say go with the Type Rs and for raised compression get the skunk 2s.

 

intresting...nore info please....

 

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Hell yeah Lumpy idle owns me. I love it.

I believe they can be tuned to idle correclty. If Jack @ P1 can tune the Vtec Killers to idle correctly @ 1000 RPM. I'm sure he can do the same for some Stage 3 cams.

Emissions? Bwhahaha common man I live in GA. lol

 

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still running on stock ecu, stock cat, stock valvetrain, and stock TB.

...</TD></TR></TABLE> how many times are you going to mention that? glad to see you made 1 post in the integra forum and 999 posts this week in GDD. Fact of the matter is you dropped in, you put down 161. I don't really see that as being better than CTR cams.

 

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Are you still tracking my posts and seeing what I post? Get a life. I didn't even post in the GDD forum until today.

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I don't know about you, but I think we all want to know what these cams make AFTER tuning... not just slappin them on.

 

Ive tuned my car to ctr cams and skunk1s and the skunks made 11 more whp over the ctr's with my setup.. Was not impressed with the ctr cams.. Weak mod for the money, just get the skunks, or crower...Similar price, lots more potential..

 

i hate to play devil's advocate.. but you made 150 whp after drop-in and 158 after tuning.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=248651

i understand that was before the skunk2 IM but i just don't want people to be misled into thinking they'll get ~170 whp with skunk2 cams on a stock IM.

 

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back on topic.

That right there, is your answer... from a guy who had both.

 

haha, what do u have to say about ingrate's reply? what about 171 whp?