Ok guys im about finish my lastest block. I need to know how much boost that my stock sleeves can handle.
setup:
f22b1 with 11:1 cr
SS valves
crower rod
wisco pistons
and all ur fuel and ignition stuff.

im currently in search for a stand alone.

 

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setup:
f22b1 with 11:1 cr
SS valves
crower rod
wisco pistons
and all ur fuel and ignition stuff.

im currently in search for a stand alone.
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why use high compression pistons on a boosted f22b? a stock f22b can take around 8-10psi if tuned well, dont know bout your application.

 

i had JE(8.5:1 cr) but i had fuel problems and ended up breaking a big piece of metal off my one 4 pistons. Plus i wanted to do something different

 

You're playing with fire, some pro's run high compression with alot of boost, but they have more resources than you and I.

I think you're asking for trouble. Id get it tuned well and put a cap on the boost at 8psi.

 

lol resources.... what do u mean? So in ur opinion no more than 8psi.

 

i think 8 psi is stretching it, but you'll never know till you try it i guess.

 

Mervin Fullenwider's accord ran 10:1 compression with 15 psi it had 249hp and 255lb-ft of torque with a t3/t4 turbo the block was basically stock except for a ported and polished head, valves to fit the 10:1 compression pistons and a aebs cam

 

I hope your not planning on running regular gas. A quick calculation for corrected compression ratio is ((Boost/14.7)+1)*CR at 8 psi your cr is about 17, im no expert but I don't think you can make that work, the highest NA cr's are like 16 and they run on the edge of disaster. As I understand once you get above 12psi you need race gas so I would think you couldn't run more then 2psi, maybe 6 on race gas. If Im wrong can someone explain the correct theory, Im still learning

 

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Really? That doesn't seem too impresive. I know all turbos are different but neidjeb (or however you spell it) here got about that on 13 psi with stock block/stock compression using a T3/T40B (or whatever comes with the f-max kit).

Properly tuned you don't need race gas to run 12 psi, but high octane is a good thing to have.

With 11 c.r. without major tuning I wouldn't go too high.

 

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money
experience
more money
money to burn on trial and error

 

I would imaging that a turbo on high cr would have a less stable affect even under low boost than a low cr engine with high boost. I, myself have thought about it, and I'm still on the fence if I want to go down that road. It's dangerous, I've never done it, I don't really know anyone who has, but I'd be poised to see what one could do with a new alternative fuel around that's higher octane than premium gas, E85. 85% ethanol, 15% gas... check your local chevrons.

fyi, don't use E85 unless you can tune for it, otherwise you'll run too rich.

Has anyone on here ran boost with high CR?

 

Everyone - you are correct. for that high of a compression ratio, you'd want AT LEAST av-gas. This kinda setup has been done before, not on a F22B1 that I've seen, but on "real race engines". For this type of setup, with more than 10 psi, you'd need VERY good tuning, highly detonation resistant fuel, and you'd probably still have to rebuild after every few runs.

But anyway, I'd say about 6 psi with 93 octane and tune the **** out of it.

 

money.....(have spent too much already..... so whats a few extra dollars).
experience......(well ive been though about 7 motors with car).... still working on it
more money.....(money spent sooo far $30,000 in mods.....yes i broke a couple of things in the process)
money to burn..................ive been burning ever since I started.........

keep the opions coming..... i need ur input........ my motor is finish and my 5spd swap is also finish............. just killin time before i put it in...... also im trying to figure out which standalone to get.... any suggestions?

 

for the the kinda tuning you're gonna need, aem ems

especially if you don't consider money a problem.

 

whats ur input on "hondata"?

 

If you have the money, then by all means, go for it and make it all work.


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Hondata is good but a rip-off. If you have a computer, EEPROM programmer, and enough time to learn how to write your own hex files, you can do the same stuff. Maybe more. That's basically all Hondata is.

 

so if money is not the problem...... u think hondata will be better then the AEM?

 

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no. AEM is a little more work to get right, but a far better system.

 

how come?

 

have a f22 in a accord wagon bought a h22 trans and ecu is there anything else i need to complete swap

 

go take a look at the features on both of their websites, you'll see the difference.

 

nope that should be it

 

can anyone respond doing it on friday

 

so no half shafts or nothing

 

will headers fit to h22