I'm tring to put in a short shifter and it isnt immediately intuitive. Im in a 99 civic si. Do I have to take apart my tranny to get the stock shifter out and the new one in? any tips?

 

first tip, goto the EG+ forum...

No you dont have to take the tranny apart... If you take the center councel apart you should see how it comes it... It isnt too hard... The only hard part is working around the exhaust unless you are willing to drop the whole thing... But it is still possible to do it with the exhaust in tact...

 

WTF! Fighting urge to flame......civic si who would have figured! Guess that's why I'm stuck being a trial user for 20 days huh?

 

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Since you have a newer car it will probably be easier to get that exhaust section off, so i would reccomend this. it's a bitch to get on with the exhaust in place(that's how i did it) and i just busted my knuckles trying to do it ilke that
hope you get it in and are happy with it

 

For the love of god, who is responsible for giving everyone the idea they need a short shifter?! I've seen firsthand nothing but torn up trans' and destroyed synchros. Especially on the B series trannies, there's no need for it at all, the stock shift mechanism is a short shifter over any other honda tranny. Try shifting a D series, easily twice as long as any B series. Do you have altezza taillights too?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX-RX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the love of god, who is responsible for giving everyone the idea they need a short shifter?! I've seen firsthand nothing but torn up trans' and destroyed synchros. Especially on the B series trannies, there's no need for it at all, the stock shift mechanism is a short shifter over any other honda tranny. Try shifting a D series, easily twice as long as any B series. Do you have altezza taillights too? </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey bro chill out. No one is telling everyone that they need a short-shifter. IT all on PREFERANCE and choice of getting one or not. If you like it get it if not don't. It's as simple as that.

Also please STOP spreading mis-information about how you think SS is the cause of messed up tranny or in you wording " <U>I've seen firsthand nothing but torn up trans' and destroyed synchros.</U> " If the driver knows how to drive propely and know how to shift correctly then there technically is not issuse to blame on the SS. What's wrong with having a shorter throw in between shifts?

Don't get other people started. SS is all on the preferrance of the driver. I'm not trying to challange/fame you or anything I just don't want newbies who read this to automatically assue that SS are a trannys worst enmy/tranny killer. know what i mean? LOL

 

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how the heck does this have anything to do with determining if his car is rice or not? So what if it is? if you don't want to help the guy out don't coment PERIOD.
This is why i'm glad people like you have a 20day grace trail user period. I would hate to have newbies flaming on newbies... what is this site coming to.. LOL

BTW all you would have to drop is the middle hanger & the bolt to the header or you can drop the middle & 2 rear hangers. I personally would try to drop just the middle hanger and if the bolts are not too rusty, try to unbolt it from the other section. BTW i hate having to mess with those freaken hanger and rubber cupplings
HTH

 

My view of them isn't as extreme as yours but I don't like short shifter either. They do feel cool at first but you can’t physically make the transmission shift any quicker. I use a stock gsr shifter in my cars, slightly shorter than the others but not as short as aftermarket.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Charlie Moua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also please STOP spreading mis-information about how you think SS is the cause of messed up tranny or in you wording " <U>I've seen firsthand nothing but torn up trans' and destroyed synchros.</U> " If the driver knows how to drive propely and know how to shift correctly then there technically is not issuse to blame on the SS. What's wrong with having a shorter throw in between shifts?

Don't get other people started. SS is all on the preferrance of the driver. I'm not trying to challange/fame you or anything I just don't want newbies who read this to automatically assue that SS are a trannys worst enmy/tranny killer. know what i mean? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can tell you that it is not always the synchros, but more often the shift forks that destroy the trans from a short shifter. The problem with reducing the throws in between shifts is that this is what causes the problems. In quickening the throw you are reducing the amount of time that the syncro has to speed up or slow down the collar to match the next gear. As a result you end up not lining up with the gear properly and then either have to use excessive force to get the collar to slide into gear, or get a hideous grind. After a number of these forced shifts, the shift fork or synchro becomes worn and you get a constant unavoidable grind because you are now way beyond factory tolerances. The only way to avoid this with a short shifter would be to shift just as slow as if you were using a factory shifter, many times slower because it is very hard to match the factory speed accurately. The factory setup is designed for the maximum allowable speed on the type R, and slightly less than that on the GSR.

 

or you could get a lighter flywheel to to reduce rotating mass and the sincros will in turn adjust faster...

 

Doesn't matter if you're pushing the clutch in to shift.

 

great information there but I still stand on what I 1st stated above.
It's all about prefferance of the driver. I personally like it having it in my daily driven civic and my aunt likes it in her CL as well. As long as you don't try to shift like your racing every other light and shift normally you should have nothing to worry about. Even if you do shift fast, hard, quick, whatever when you tranny goes out it's not to blame the SS (unless it is defective) blame it on your own driving skills.....more so your ability to have excellent clutch engagements points & shifting skills.

haha I'd laugh at someone if they tried to blame a SS for messing up their tranny. But hey that just IMHO LOL guys

 

Has anyone used a short shifter with the Hasport linkage on their swap? The shift points actually seem further apart and more unatural than they used to be and I'm wondering if a short shifter would make it a bit better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B17ACRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone used a short shifter with the Hasport linkage on their swap? The shift points actually seem further apart and more unatural than they used to be and I'm wondering if a short shifter would make it a bit better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i've talked with them about what the difference in lenght between their custom linkage vs, shorten LS linkage and they said, is cleaner, bent slightly different,... afew other things too. But they said you should not notice any change, and feel like stock. HTH

 

If the SS is built for that car (or to the respectable measurements), they will not ruin a tranny. If you get a shifter that has too much length in between the pivot and the shifter rod, then you could over throw the shifter forks. I would be too afraid to put a Teg shifter in my honda....

Short throws rock.