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7th wheel bearing at 230,000 kms.

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 05:20 AM
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Default 7th wheel bearing at 230,000 kms.

Hi all! I have a serious reoccurring problem with my 1996, Honda Accord
(2-dr, 5-speed). At 230,000 kms, it is in need of it's 7th wheel bearing.
About three years ago, the Px side rear bearing started to act up; I
replaced it. A year later and 30,000+ kms, later, the same bearing went
again. And again, the same bearing one year later. About two weeks ago, my
front driver's side started to act up. I replaced it today as it was really
starting to get loud. To my surprise, on the drive home, the whining sound
is still there but not as loud. The mechanic at the dealer stated on the
invoice that he checked the right rear bearing and it indeed needed to be
replaced (again). However, I don't think he checked the driver's side rear
bearing as it is also making noise (I am getting good at diagnosing which
bearing is acting up). That will make is seven bearings in only 115,000
kms!
I have spoken with 4 service managers or Honda mechanics way back when I was
only on my fourth bearing. All state that this is highly unusual. One told
me to contact Honda Canada. I did. They may as well have laughed at me, as
it was quite clear that even though they admitted it was unusual, there was
nothing they could do and I should be complaining to a service manager.
I am not willing to let this go. I have owned 6 different Honda vehicles. I
have only ever changed 1 bearing before - eve r- and that was on a '79
accord; it need new rotors and the bearing had seized onto the rotor; the
bearing was still ok. All of my previous cars have lasted to the 400,000-km
mark too. I also own a 90-hp Honda outboard motor and various other Honda
products. I believe I am entitled to a little more customer loyalty.
Does anybody have some suggestions or contacts for my next step?
One more thing and this may sound a little funny. Through the course of
speaking to other people about this problem I have heard an interesting
diagnosis from two different people. They state that a bad ground can cause
premature bearing failure. The logic is that the engine is on rubber
mounts - electrically isolated from the frame. If the frame builds a static
electric charge, the only course it can take to the engine is to arc through
the bearings. It sounds so ridiculous that it might actually be true.
Ironically, one of the first things I noticed with this car was that I
always got one helluva shock whenever I exited the vehicle. Whaddya think?

BTW - no mods made to this car. Normal use.

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 05:38 AM
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I'd be going to a honda rep and taking all 7 receipts with you. it sounds like the rear supension on that wheel is messed up in some way maybe camber ot toe in is not correct or the wheel is not pointing straight forward any one of those things can cause bearing failure and the honda dealer should be smart enough to look for it expecially after 6 bearings have been replaced.......
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 7th wheel bearing at 230,000 kms. (MajBach)

Ive never seen one go through that many bearings. I wonder if they may be overtightening the nut. What kind of parts warranty do you get in Canada? In the USA it's 12 months, or 12,000 miles.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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long shot, but what happens if you don't press the hub onto the bearing enough? (i dont know but taking guesses that it would fail sooner).

I hammered mine on til I was sure it was on as far as it would go, but I know that prior to that, it seemed "fine" thou it wasnt on all the way. Could it be they arent pressing it completely together?
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Default Re: 7th wheel bearing at 230,000 kms. (MajBach)

Has your car ever been crashed? Do you have aftermaket wheels with offset? or do you have stud shims to space out your stock wheels? These could be creating you problems if you have those.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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honda of canada .
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