Well it now looks like my problem is a little beyond just stuck fuel injectors or something simple related to bad gas. I took the car in to have the dealer take care of it since the car is under warranty (didn't feel like paying for injectors).

Day 1: Brought the car in at 9:30am after calling ahead the previous week. I had no method of transportation and I'm not 21 so I was stuck at the dealership. At around 3pm they finally talked to me and said that they wouldn't be able to work on it without the secondary O2 sensor because it was causing the car to run rich. I told them it didn't tune off of that, they tried arguing with me a little bit longer, but eventually agreed to look at it again the next day after I told them that I've been running without one for over 40,000mi and they've known it .

Day 2: Called today a few times and finally got the service manager. They said they were still looking over my car in between other cars . Informed me that my compression in the number 1 cylinder is low at 130 but the others were fine at 150 I told them that all of those numbers are WAY too low and that the last time I did a compression check I got 215 on all four. His response "you must have just cranked it too many times" . I told him no and that an ITR should be easily over 200. He informed that the mechanic working on it was a master tech and he was just going by what he told him. They said that they are thinking I floated a valve and nicked it. Yeah since I've never went over the stock rev limiter EVER, no mis shifts or re chipped ECU with higher fuel cut.


No I'm super pissed at the dealer for 1. not spending time on it 2. Thinking I've done something I haven't 3. Not knowing what the heck they are talking about.

If my compression is that low how in the heck can that happen. The last time I ran it was fine. Two days later it screws up and has no compression? Blown head gasket?

 

Once again why I find a warrany nothing but paying for making the heachache throb even more...

 

I dont believe its the compression number itself you should be worried about - depending on the way its tested, different methods can produce different numbers - but the variance between cylinders after the test - and it does look like there is a problem with #1

ceas..

 

More great news. Car isn't getting the proper manifold pressure reading. They also supposedly put compressed air into the cylinder at TDC and could hear it leaking out. They are really thinking I nicked a valve. Would that cause such low compression? I know I'm running Skunk II stage ones but I've never over revved the engine. Any advice on where to go from here? I guess pulling the head is my only choice (I'll do it myself).

Oh and they informed me after all of this that they aren't going to cover me under warranty. Things are not looking good right now.

 

Brock - you know which dealership to take it to, if you want to get it done right. I'm sure it'll be worth the towing and other time hassle. I'll even give you a lift back halfway back to way-down, AL.

 

What kind of springs are you running?

 

Get the car out of there. Pull the head and have a local machine shop evaluate, it will save you money and you will come out on top with performance parts.
EVIL

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know I'm running Skunk II stage ones but I've never over revved the engine. Any advice on where to go from here? I guess pulling the head is my only choice (I'll do it myself).

Oh and they informed me after all of this that they aren't going to cover me under warranty. Things are not looking good right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you have aftermarket cams, how could you still have warranty for engine problems?

 

i dont get people who race their car or perform engine mods.. and then expect the dealer to fix it when **** starts acting up.

 

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If you have aftermarket cams, how could you still have warranty for engine problems?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My car has been serviced since the cams and the last I heard they said I have done the work well enough that I would still be under warranty for the parts not tampered with. I knew as soon as they started talking about the valves that warranty work was out of the question. Not arguing anything on that. I brought it in thinking it was fuel related in which I have not pushed past stock specs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of springs are you running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

u can race.... and be under warranty I mean... it's foreseeable that you would do it so by law it should be covered. Cams in my mind would void it yes. Basic boltons shouldn't, and if u have a good relationship with ur dealer they should be cool with it. I'm not sure about VAFC. Does that void warranty? For the most part I think acura is a lota nicer about warrant ywork than other companies.

 

Stock ITR valve springs. That is what Skunk recommends with the stage ones.

I'm not arguing the warranty thing. They SHOULD void it if this is the case. I just wish they would have informed me BEFORE they started to check other things than specified.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My car has been serviced since the cams and the last I heard they said I have done the work well enough that I would still be under warranty for the parts not tampered with. I knew as soon as they started talking about the valves that warranty work was out of the question. Not arguing anything on that. I brought it in thinking it was fuel related in which I have not pushed past stock specs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I see.
But now seems like a can of worm is opened.... good luck. Hope you could get the car fixed within reasonable cost.

 

Active,

I could have sworn somewhere I read Skunk2 I's required springs although they do not recommend it? Good luck regardless

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess pulling the head is my only choice (I'll do it myself).

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Active,

I could have sworn somewhere I read Skunk2 I's required springs although they do not recommend it? Good luck regardless </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'f I'm correct Skunk stage 1's run fine off of stock valvetrain. Stage 2 can run off stock but it is recommeded you uppgrade valvetrain. Stage 3 needs upgraded valvetrain though.

 

good luck dood!

 

sorry to hear about the R

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RiCE On IcE 2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u can race.... and be under warranty I mean... it's foreseeable that you would do it so by law it should be covered. Cams in my mind would void it yes. Basic boltons shouldn't, and if u have a good relationship with ur dealer they should be cool with it. I'm not sure about VAFC. Does that void warranty? For the most part I think acura is a lota nicer about warrant ywork than other companies.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good relationship is key. and in most cases they can warrenty anything. its up to the shop if they warrenty it. probably about 60 percent of warrenty work acura or honda dosnt even ask to see the damaged parts. so bring the acura guys some cookies

 

build a relationship with one the service techs that sit at the counter all day... I've been talking to one a lot... if your good and honest with them they might even cover stuff thats your fault.. they've covered a few blown mist shifted motors.. cus the owner dind't try to BS about the shift... just find a dealer u trust and build from there.

 

u needed to get something in writing stating that they would warrenty your car before they started to look at it. the same happened to me. i over-reved and they did a compression test, the service writer said(verbally) that it was warrenty work, once the motor was apart they changed their mind and i was stuck w/ $1200 bill. welcome to the STEALERSHIP... good luck w/ it
wallie

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedRacer00-667 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u needed to get something in writing stating that they would warrenty your car before they started to look at it. the same happened to me. i over-reved and they did a compression test, the service writer said(verbally) that it was warrenty work, once the motor was apart they changed their mind and i was stuck w/ $1200 bill. welcome to the STEALERSHIP... good luck w/ it
wallie</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well for the most part an overrev/misshift is human error and not covered ur dealer would be niec if they did cover it.

 

amazing that people still go to dealers for service.......

 

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This man is right though. Sorry to hear that guy.