My car was swirled up pretty bad by the Honda dealership, and they are willing to pay to have it fixed. The guy that I am thinking of going to said he uses a 3m finessit 3 system. He claims it isn't that abrasive, but it rather chemically heats up when used with a high speed dual action rotary and removes swirls that way. Does that sound correct/good? Professional? I ask because I don't know if there is alot of really good people in my area, and this guy was recommended by Honda as being the best.

Oh yeah, he also mentioned something about a possible Teflon coating that some other shop could put on my car to cover up the swirls, but he didn't know how permanent it would be. Anyone heard of that? Anyone know more about it? I never have heard of it.
Thanks a bunch for any info,
Adam

 

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Oh yeah, he also mentioned something about a possible Teflon coating that some other shop could put on my car to cover up the swirls, but he didn't know how permanent it would be. Anyone heard of that? Anyone know more about it? I never have heard of it.
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Crippidy crap, if he recommends this run away quickly.

3M Finesse it II and a rotary has the potential to do a GREAT job of removing swirls and oxidation. It also has the potential to burn through paint, damage molding, and create terrible buffer burn.

Ask to see some of the cars he has detailed before you agree. Make sure you see them in direct sunlight where you can see any swirls he may have caused/missed.

 

yeah, go to see what other cars this fellow's worked on.

using compound with good rotary skills will give you far better results than any fancy 3m products this guy tries to push.

A no nonsense detailer wouldnt try to sell the products as much as he would the type of job he can do... just my $.02.

 

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using compound with good rotary skills will give you far better results than any fancy 3m products this guy tries to push.

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3M makes very high quality compounds, one of the one being the Finesse it line.

 

I'll get the name 2marrow of the product I use from 3m to keep my black cars from NO swirls at all. I did a 350z that was keyed on both sides. It was painted and had dirt in the paint. I sanded dirt outta the paint. All sanded spots had to be compounded using 3m paste compound and my Makita 0-6000rpm buffer. After I get all the dull spots out from the sander with the compound I move on. BTW I use a yellow soft round egg carton looking buffer pad. Next step I use a polish with a black pad on my buffer and go over every area that I buffed. Alot of detailers say it's done and swirls removed on to washing the car. Nope not for me. Last step I take my snap on DA it's the device I use to sand with 1500 grit sandpaper. (sorry to leave that out ) I attach a small circular black buff pad to my DA about 6in radius. I have another 3m product a finishing glaze,... (will definatly post names of products 2marrow after work.) Anyway I dab the product on areas where buffed, use my DA with small black pad to spread on a panel at a time. After applying to ea panel I take it off with a micro-fiber clean cloth. The final product after a good clean shampoo wash with a soft micro-fiber cloth as well, .. the BLACK 350z came out without a scratch, swirl , nothing, flawless like it just came out the showroom and this thing had about 9,000mi on it. ppl u know black cars r ruff. Point is Swirls are apparant in darker cars and are a real bitch to take care of. Buffing at a slow, steady pace results in less swirls,..but they will usually always be there unless I do the above process.


Sum up - Buff car 2 get out swirls requires the right skill at buffing and the right products to do it. I'm sure there are many other ways, but I know when I buff a dark color'd car and use these steps,. I'm sure to keep getting a <U>SWEET</U> raise every year.

 

Holy **** dude, you don't seriously sand the clearcoat with a 6000rpm rotary do you?

You know the clearcoat is less than a few mm thick?

 

no no.. run it about 3700 rpm. I'm nasty with a buffer sometimes go around 4200 but thats usual..

lol.. I'd burn right through the clear.