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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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Hi, I'm trying to change my timing belt on my 98 Honda Civic EX. I'm having trouble taking off the crank pulley bolt. I have tried an impact gun with a compressor with maximum capibility of 115lbs of torque. How much more torque do I need to take this bolt off?
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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some impacts dont have as much torque as others do in reverse so if you know some that has another one you might want to try it, i know my one impact wouldnt take it off so i had to use my other one. hope this helps
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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115ft/lbs of torque for an impact is extremely weak. return it and spend $200 or so on an impact that pushes 600ft/lbs or so.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NaVamous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi, I'm trying to change my timing belt on my 98 Honda Civic EX. I'm having trouble taking off the crank pulley bolt. I have tried an impact gun with a compressor with maximum capibility of 115lbs of torque. How much more torque do I need to take this bolt off?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that bolt is torqued at 135lbs. this dude on this site showed me what to do and now its my turn to show somebody. Put the spare tire on the car and put the car on the ground. then stick the socket with a couple of extentions on the bolt and with a breaker bar turn that ****. oh yeah make sure that the car is in 5th and that someone is in it pushing on the brakes(not only the emergency i mean the brake pedal) Putting a pipe or the handle from a bigger jack over the breaker bar adds some mad torque to. good luck
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dabomb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that bolt is torqued at 135lbs. this dude on this site showed me what to do and now its my turn to show somebody. Put the spare tire on the car and put the car on the ground. then stick the socket with a couple of extentions on the bolt and with a breaker bar turn that ****. oh yeah make sure that the car is in 5th and that someone is in it pushing on the brakes(not only the emergency i mean the brake pedal) Putting a pipe or the handle from a bigger jack over the breaker bar adds some mad torque to. good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>


OR you can buy this pulley tool and make it a one man job. http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net part # SP 60100. cost me $43.50+ shipping. it's cheaper and more effective then having someone stepping on the a brakes, putting it in 5th gear and other ghey **** people are doing on their car. work smarter NOT harder.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


OR you can buy this pulley tool and make it a one man job. http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net part # SP 60100. cost me $43.50+ shipping. it's cheaper and more effective then having someone stepping on the a brakes, putting it in 5th gear and other ghey **** people are doing on their car. work smarter NOT harder.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm sorry buddy if some of us aren't as smart as you but when i was trying to get that bolt of it was like midnight and my car had to be ready by morning. putting up a post on honda-tech and figuring out how to get a job done without risking any damage to yourself or your car with the tools you have seems pretty smart to me. on the other hand your prolly on a whole other level of inteligence so why bother with these threads and try to discourage people for trying to help eachother out. Put in your .02 cents and let it be man you don't have to slam other peoples tips
peace
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dabomb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that bolt is torqued at 135lbs. this dude on this site showed me what to do and now its my turn to show somebody. Put the spare tire on the car and put the car on the ground. then stick the socket with a couple of extentions on the bolt and with a breaker bar turn that ****. oh yeah make sure that the car is in 5th and that someone is in it pushing on the brakes(not only the emergency i mean the brake pedal) Putting a pipe or the handle from a bigger jack over the breaker bar adds some mad torque to. good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why do you have to put the spare tire on ? And like the other guy said, by the tool and save some time and effort. The other way will work to if you don't feel like buying that tool.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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thanks a lot for all the replies, I will try the suggested methods.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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I had my dad put it in gear and mash the brakes, it came off with a breaker bar and this method.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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i just take the flywheel cover off, then lock the flywheel with a screwdriver and voila.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why do you have to put the spare tire on ? And like the other guy said, by the tool and save some time and effort. The other way will work to if you don't feel like buying that tool.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you put the spare on so when you put the car down on all four tires(and once again this is just a suggestion, i'm sure it can be done with the car on jacks) your socket,extensions and breaker bar will have acess to the crank pulley bolt due to the smaller spare tire. I have never used or seen this tool that you guys are talking about but the way i was told to do it doesn't take very much time and doesn't take very much effort. Some of us might only need to take that bolt off once or twice and never have to do it again. So buying that tool might not be a good investment for everyone.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 01:23 AM
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If you have the resources, a 3/4 " impact gun works 99% of the time, and makes crank pulley bolt problems a thing of the past. And if you have friends that need help with their crank pulley bolts, it means free for you.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:01 AM
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dadomb, I think the method you used is smarter than all other methods(no power tools involved) I have read about so far, including the special tool method. Actually I came up a similar idea recently except the spare tire trick which is really neat. I only thought about putting 3 wheels on the ground, also **block the wheels** may help. This method utilizes all 4 brake's power and the weight of the car, unlike leaving the car in the air which only use 2 front brakes and without the benefit of the weight of the car.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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double post
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 05:23 AM
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You can also put a rope thru the rear towing hook and tie the car to another car(with e brake on, wheel blocked) to make it a one-man's job.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dabomb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i'm sorry buddy if some of us aren't as smart as you but when i was trying to get that bolt of it was like midnight and my car had to be ready by morning. putting up a post on honda-tech and figuring out how to get a job done without risking any damage to yourself or your car with the tools you have seems pretty smart to me. on the other hand your prolly on a whole other level of inteligence so why bother with these threads and try to discourage people for trying to help eachother out. Put in your .02 cents and let it be man you don't have to slam other peoples tips
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amen.
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 02:28 AM
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what about using wd 40 and spray some on the bolt. would it help??
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 02:39 AM
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You could try it, but not likely. It would not get past the washer to the threads.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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So you cant just use a strong as impact wrench to get that bolt off? What method really is THE BEST and EASIEST that wont cause any kinda damage to anything.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 06:50 AM
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Crank up the pressure on your air compressor.. on the regulater there is a pressure screw

I needed 140psi on the tank before I was able to blast off the crank pulley
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just take the flywheel cover off, then lock the flywheel with a screwdriver and voila. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Either that or through the starter hole. Then stand on a breaker bar. I have a pretty nice IR impact gun and it doesn't do the job 100% of the time.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SlowSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you cant just use a strong as impact wrench to get that bolt off? What method really is THE BEST and EASIEST that wont cause any kinda damage to anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just use a decent impact gun, my 1/2" is rated for 800 lb/ft in reverse, after doing hundreds of bolts, I have yet to have one not come off first crack.

Use the right damn tool for the job, and make sure you have the right damn tool BEFORE you start the job.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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screw driver in the flywheel and a small breaker bar always works for me...
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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the way i did it was take out the starter and have someone jam up the flywheel so it doesnt move then get a super long extension and a breaker bar at the end of your ratchet and break that **** loose. worked wonders for me but you would also have to do the same technique when tightening the bolt down. If not you'll be a dumbass like me in this thread https://honda-tech.com/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=15
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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I have broken a couple of crank pulley bolts and the pulley before. Those bolts suck bad. I needed a 3 foot breaker bar to break it loose after I broke 3 sockets and a rachet. This was after I broke the pulley using a clamp to hold it still.
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