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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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Default Sorry for the n00b question. Need help and suggestions with this setup.

How does the setup sound?
What would you change?
Will the stock ignition be sufficient?
How much power do you think it will make @ 25psi
We are staying with the stock bore. That I know for a fact.
Reving it to 8500 - 9500rpm

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b16a block & head *stock bore*
Full Race Manifold
Full Race 3" Downpipe *No Exhaust*
Precision SC63 .60/.63
PWR 30x8x3.5 Intercooler
2.5" Intercooler Piping
T-bolt clamps
Tial 46mm Wastegate 1bar spring
TurboXS bov
GE Sleeves
OEM head gasket
Polished crank
Endyn 9.5:1 Pistons
Crower Rods
P&P Head
Ferrea SS Valves
Crower Dual Valve Springs
Crower Ti Retainers
Hondata S200b
FJO Wideband o2
MSD 95# Injectors w/resistor box
STR Rail
SX Regulator
SS Fuel Lines
Walbro Pump
JG Manifold
JG Throttle Body
GM 3bar map
Quaife LSD
Upgraded Axles
HASport Mounts
c16 fuel
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Thanks for the help.

ps. The head is already done. The drivetrain is already done. The turbo kit is already purchased. But can be sold or traded for other suggestions. The block is in process of being done, but we can still change it up if need be. The fuel system is done, but can be changed. Hondata is already bought.


Thanks again HT
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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that sounds real nice. i wish i had money like that:p didnt you just get your rev hard kit not too long ago?? are you getting rid of it already??
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeStUdO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that sounds real nice. i wish i had money like that:p didnt you just get your rev hard kit not too long ago?? are you getting rid of it already??</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is a setup my friend and I have been working on for his '95 VX.

Unfortunatly I don't have this kind of money either.

Oh well, I'll just drive his car.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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i dont see slicks on there. youll definitely need those. that setup will be THE TRUTH in a hatch
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeStUdO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont see slicks on there. youll definitely need those. that setup will be THE TRUTH in a hatch</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes slicks are a given. 13x8 Weld Draglites with 24.5x8x13 slicks.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Sorry for the n00b question. Need help and suggestions with this setup. (RyanAutry)

dude that turbo is HUGE for a b16a. You said stock bore / stroke...its gonna be like no spool until you hit redline with that thing.

I highly recommend you go 2litres or bigger.

That might work for a full race car but if you plan on driving it on the street ANY its gonna suck.

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Sorry for the n00b question. Need help and suggestions with this setup. (liam821)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude that turbo is HUGE for a b16a. You said stock bore / stroke...its gonna be like no spool until you hit redline with that thing.

I highly recommend you go 2litres or bigger.

That might work for a full race car but if you plan on driving it on the street ANY its gonna suck.

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They said with the full race mani it should spool nicely by 5500?

I thought the SC63 spooled very fast? It's a t3/t04e housing? With a 6-blade compressor wheel?
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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at least get a stronger coil

thats gotta be the biggest intercooler ever....!!!

What numbers are you going for?
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">at least get a stronger coil

thats gotta be the biggest intercooler ever....!!!

What numbers are you going for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I suggested a stronger coil.

Numbers, hmmm .... over 500whp hopefully.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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gonna need a MEAN *** clutch then
Like a twin disc
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gonna need a MEAN *** clutch then
Like a twin disc</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah we know that. I forgot to mention the clutch. He has a ACT 6-puck with xtream pressure plate. Probably going to go with Clutchmaster stage 5 after the ACT gives up.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Considering you said it's going to be running 25+ PSI i'm guessing it's on race gas, so i'd go for some more compression. 10:1-10.5:1 should give you a nice boost in spool time. Might want to look at a different intercooler too, i've heard the PWR's arn't very efficient at high boost pressures.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering you said it's going to be running 25+ PSI i'm guessing it's on race gas, so i'd go for some more compression. 10:1-10.5:1 should give you a nice boost in spool time. Might want to look at a different intercooler too, i've heard the PWR's arn't very efficient at high boost pressures.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, c16
Up the Comp might be a good idea!
I'll look into the intercooler.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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that turb is kinda big for your stock bore, but who knows? p&p head, and you might run nos..
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering you said it's going to be running 25+ PSI i'm guessing it's on race gas, so i'd go for some more compression. 10:1-10.5:1 should give you a nice boost in spool time. Might want to look at a different intercooler too, i've heard the PWR's arn't very efficient at high boost pressures.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agree id up the compression too...might as well if your on race gas all the time.

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Yeah you might want to step down to the SC61.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Are you sure you want to keep those Crower retainers? There are several people on this board that have experienced severe problems with them.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quick 200k Mile Motor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that turb is kinda big for your stock bore, but who knows? p&p head, and you might run nos..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Motormatrix ran a SC63 on his 1797cc motor and made 559whp @ 22psi.

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMinSi2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah you might want to step down to the SC61.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The turbo is already bought and here.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure you want to keep those Crower retainers? There are several people on this board that have experienced severe problems with them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well they're already in the head... But they wouldn't be that hard to change?

I'll look into that.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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I'd like to know why you're so dead set on the stock bore. Has the block already been bored + honed or what? An 84MM bore and 10.5:1 compression would give you a fair bit of low end
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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arp head studs and loose the valves and get some stock ones, gsr ones are fine
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd like to know why you're so dead set on the stock bore. Has the block already been bored + honed or what? An 84MM bore and 10.5:1 compression would give you a fair bit of low end </TD></TR></TABLE>
He want's to make 500+WHP with a b16, 1.6L
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">arp head studs and loose the valves and get some stock ones, gsr ones are fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

ARP bolts and studs will be used throughout the engine...

Ferrea Valves are already in the head.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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another thing to think about, I have been talking with a guy named hoover chan about turbo piping and efficiency of different piping setups (I & E). he makes a bunch of very nice quality intercooler and complete turbo kits.

Im sure you already know this, but the intercooler piping can have a decent amount of effect on the output. luckily with most honda b-series fitting platforms, its pretty straight forward designs that cant be screwed up too bad.

so, is your intercooler kit custom or a kit?

what cams are you running?

if you have a different intake and exhaust manifold, you probably will want to get some cam gears too, but you probably already have those.

good luck with the buildup otherwise

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